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#21 Post by John Hill » Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:02 am

Thanks Mr Goblin. Perhaps our library has one or two of his books.
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#22 Post by ian16th » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:00 am

One of the good guys, I remember laughing out loud, while reading 'Don't Worry About the Money Now'.

If you have an hour to spare; this guy is also worth the time.

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#23 Post by PHXPhlyer » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:52 pm

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#24 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:55 pm

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#25 Post by 1DC » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:49 pm

A few years ago I read that it was common knowledge that at least a million dollars a day of aid money would leave Kabul for Dubai, every day, lots of people knew but nobody said anything. The people who acquired the money will now move out and live a good life and the people at the bottom of the pile will continue to live a life of misery just as it always was. The women's lives will be ***** but they won't know that because that is the way it has always been.

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#26 Post by AtomKraft » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:50 pm

We have achieved precisely nothing, as any fule no.

If you start with the wrong strategy- and ours was wrong and aimless from the start, the outcome is predictable and inevitable.

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#27 Post by Boac » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:02 pm

Russians, of course, did much better?

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#28 Post by OFSO » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:17 pm

No, they didn't. Disaster all round.

Slight thread drift, but didn't the Americans have a weekly bonfire of Vietnamese currency (dong ?) back in The Good Old Days, in order to reduce the amount in circulation?

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#29 Post by Boac » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:22 pm

No, they didn't. Disaster all round.
Get away with you.

Burning one's dong - sounds serious.

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#30 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:11 pm

Listening to the BBC news and the main story is our man, General Nick Carter grandstanding and maintaining how disappointed he is that Biden is pulling the US out of Afghanistan.

Carter of course, hasn't a pot to piss in. He has 750 men in Afghanistan and is really making himself look really "renickulous" with such ludicrous posturing. The Americans who have 10,000 personnel there must just look and wonder at such foolish vainglory. If this is the calibre of leadership in the military here, then bring back Major-General William George Keith Elphinstone say I.

What a total prannet!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Cart ... y_officer)
Carter has been criticised on several occasions by American officers for his conduct and command while in Afghanistan. He was described by Colonel Harry Tunnell, former Brigade Commander of 5/2 Stryker Brigade Combat Team, as displaying a "gross lack of concern for subordinates" throughout his command in Afghanistan in 2009 and 2010. Further criticism came from Lieutenant General Daniel P. Bolger, who claimed that "young riflemen paid the price" for Carter's "risk-averse" mentality and his unwillingness to allow his troops to defend themselves. Bolger also claimed that Carter refused to visit the front line and only visited safe positions by helicopter, while frequently refusing requests for aircraft and artillery support from troops under his command. Bolger further stated, "He's not the type of general I would put in charge of anything.
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#31 Post by John Hill » Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:33 pm

PHXPhlyer wrote:
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The article was about high ranking Taleban Mullah Mansour and an imposter who fooled MI6 (and others) out of a lot of money. Try this link
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2010/11/ ... n-impostor
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#32 Post by PHXPhlyer » Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:46 pm

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#33 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:49 am

TGG, how dare you denigrate our most senior military leader in the UK, you a saffer indeed. You should see the estime in which he is held by the professionals :

https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threa ... st.304056/

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It's so ironic that the poppy is a symbol of War

#34 Post by Undried Plum » Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:32 pm

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In 2001, Afghanistan produced approximately 180 metric tons of opium. Only one year after the U.S. invasion, opium production swelled to more than 3,000 metric tons a year.

The U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) World Drug Report estimates Afghanistan opium production at 6,400 metric tons for 2019. That’s sufficient to manufacture 472 to 722 tons of heroin, unchanged from production levels in 2018. The annual opium survey previously found a record high 9,000 metric tons for 2017, a gain of 87% compared to 2016.

After 20 years of UKUSA military occupation of Afghanistan, the only limit to opium production in the country is that the international price in the marketplaces of Europe and the US has collapsed due to the massive oversupply.

Not much of an 'achievement', is it?

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#36 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:36 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:49 am
TGG, how dare you denigrate our most senior military leader in the UK, you a saffer indeed. You should see the estime in which he is held by the professionals :

https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threa ... st.304056/

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#37 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:41 pm

TGG, I was about to chide you on ignoring an open goal.

I liked the bits on his delayed departure, in particular the one of his being extended. Having someone to blame is apposite too, as many is the time people were posted before the subsequent ***** storm.

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#38 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:57 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:41 pm
TGG, I was about to chide you on ignoring an open goal.

I liked the bits on his delayed departure, in particular the one of his being extended. Having someone to blame is apposite too, as many is the time people were posted before the subsequent *sh*t* storm.
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#39 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:05 pm

I might guess that the supposed rulers in Afg are but one party with the Taliban the other. The one in power solely by virtue of Western interference. They also benefit from Western largesse. Remove our support and everything will revert to the status quo ante.

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#40 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:20 pm

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