Best place to live without wokerey?

[AtomKraft]

Don't be docile Boac.
Covid seems to kill about 0.1% or less of Indians, who get it- and most of them would have probably hopped off next year anyway.

In fact, although Worldwide Deaths have been higher 2020/21 than average, deaths over the next couple of years are definitely going to be lower than average.

A case can certainly be made for Covid having zero effect on the five year average.

And that's not even taking into account the many thousands of healthy folk bankrupted or suicided by the countermeasures....

[OFSO]

Wot I said last year. The ones dying now won't die next year, as scheduled. Turn this year's graph upside down and lay it on next year's.

[Boac]

Thanks for putting my ?docile? mind at ease, AK. I thought there was some sort of problem in India, but obviously not.

[Woody]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-56982991

[AtomKraft]

Look Boac.
I'm not saying there isn't a problem, I'm saying that there are some problems you cannot do much about.

We arrogantly seem to assume we can fix every ill on the planet, from Covid to climate change.

It's hubris. We can't.

Some ***** comes with the neighbourhood.

[OFSO]

And some from worshipping a God who requires you to meet in groups of a million. Or a hundred if you are Jewish.

(Or two if you are Arsenal fans!)

[Boac]

AK - post #41?? Was that by you or has someone nicked your log-in? I read that and thought - Ah! - That's OK - AK says Covid doesn't really affect things at all in the big picture. It's just a little ripple on life's smooth sea.

Of course, it might just be the collapsing health service, no beds, funeral pyres and all the other daily TV viewing............ or not?

[AtomKraft]

India has a good enough health service for normal times, but no health service can cope when a country of 1400 million gets the lurgy.

(Except China's it seems.....)

[Karearea]

One was going to suggest New Zealand, but it would appear we are rapidly catching up with the "Wokery" behavior of the rest of the afflicted world.

The Leader of the Opposition in 2014: Sorry for being a man (17sec. video)

His party did not win the election that year.

[PHXPhlyer]

Maybe if he had said that he was a lesbian trapped in a man's body...?

PP

[TheGreenGoblin]

Don't be docile Boac.
Covid seems to kill about 0.1% or less of Indians, who get it- and most of them would have probably hopped off next year anyway.

In fact, although Worldwide Deaths have been higher 2020/21 than average, deaths over the next couple of years are definitely going to be lower than average.

A case can certainly be made for Covid having zero effect on the five year average.

And that's not even taking into account the many thousands of healthy folk bankrupted or suicided by the countermeasures....

Atom don't give up your day job (same can be said of OFSO) to try and be an actuary or a statistician. Innumeracy writ large in both your opinions!

[OFSO]

Thanks TGG. Always wanted to know if you could spell innumeracy....OK, so there are more than two Arsenal fans.

[TheGreenGoblin]

Thanks TGG. Always wanted to know if you could spell innumeracy....OK, so there are more than two Arsenal fans.

I may be an arse and all too OFSO, but I tend to avoid talking twaddle and making phantasmagorical, and highly inaccurate statements of the kind that Atom made above.

I should just ignore such nonsense, but my twaddle meter hit the stops this morning!

[OFSO]

But surely even you can see that mentioning "deaths in India" while never mentioning "population of India" or "birthrate in India", while appealing to emotions, does give a false picture of their pandemic? I've been saying for months that reporting percentage of people affected would be more faithful, but in this wretched uneducated age the general public does not understand what a percentage is.

"The current population of India is 1,390,790,274 as of Monday, April 19, 2021, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data"

"The current birth rate for India in 2021 is 17.377 births per 1000 people".

You do the numbers!

[TheGreenGoblin]

But surely even you can see that mentioning "deaths in India" while never mentioning "population of India" or "birthrate in India", while appealing to emotions, does give a false picture of their pandemic? I've been saying for months that reporting percentage of people affected would be more faithful, but in this wretched uneducated age the general public does not understand what a percentage is.

"The current population of India is 1,390,790,274 as of Monday, April 19, 2021, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data"

OFSO, I currently make my crust of bread working in the insurance and mortality experience markets, working in the software development area of that industry. While I agree that many people don't get the basics (not even percentages), one only has to look at the baseline mortality rate in India for the last ten years and run conservative projections on the current mortality rate to see that it is well above the norm, and is projected to stay there for many months more!

Perhaps we should discuss this (and much more fun things besides) over lunch and a glass of wine some time! We could raise a glass to Capetonian!

I will even raise a glass to Atom with the toast "to Atom, may he never be woke, or broke!"

[OFSO]

Obviously the internet is lying when the figures for India are 77,756 births a day and 28,230 deaths a day. The mortality rate may well be above the norm ( and it's appalling) but in no way is it going to make a dent in the population of India. If you have lost a beloved family member to CV this doesn't matter of course.

[OFSO]

Wokery: first it was Piers Morgan being sacked and now LBCs Steve Allen's rambling breakfast talk has been totally emasculated. Gone are all the well-known targets such as Meghan, Price, Eugenie, Carrie and others. Now it's all about what he had for breakfast or ISGTH for supper or how stupid people are in not wearing masks or how much he would love a KitKat. We both feel the Woke are doing their worst.

[OFSO]

Mrs OFSO is watching a program on Tutankhamen, where a reference has been made to mummifcation. Surely this is no longer acceptable as its gender specific. Dadification? No. LBGTification. Does that leave anyone out or insult anyone?

[Boac]

Surely you mean Tutankhaperson?

[prospector]

This sort of thinking seems to be very prevalent in the Western World these days for some reason, could it be anything to do with the very strong, heavily financed by ?????BLM crowd.

New Zealanders' Modern Cultural Cringe
18/01/2021


A bizarre craze seems to be sweeping New Zealand right now. All things derived from Europe except our creature comforts must be set aside as we are expected to embrace all things Maori. It's racism on a grand scale. No longer do our television stations refer to New Zealand. In fact, we are lucky if its Aotearoa-New Zealand. No reference to the fact that, as Michael King shows, Maori didn't have a name for these lands, and only came to accept "Aotearoa" in relatively recent times. Several newspapers are falling into line and are now calling our country Aotearoa, a name unknown to most people beyond our shores. No public debate. We are expected to acquiesce. The name "New Zealand" which dates back to Abel Tasman's visit in 1642 came more into early use and is the name by which our land has always been recognized abroad. It won't be long before the woke who are driving all this insist on officially changing our country's name. Instead of being proud New Zealanders, we'll be expected to call ourselves Aotearoaians. They'll try to avoid a referendum lest it results in rejection like occurred with changing the flag. Just impose it! The woke have no respect for democracy.

Government departments and public institutions are being renamed at such a rapid rate that it isn't clear what the names refer to. Waka Kotahi for Transport? Why? Since all forms of transport except the canoe were unknown to Maori, and were imported from overseas, why a Maori name? Where did Waka Kotahi come from? Waka, yes. But Kotahi? It doesn't appear in the revered Bruce Biggs' Maori dictionary. Waka Kotahi wasn't a term used by Maori before settlers arrived in the 1840s and 1850s. There are other institutions with self-bestowed Maori names that are unrecognizable to ordinary Kiwis.
Radio New Zealand, too, has been working full time. They are deleting the words both "radio" and "New Zealand" from everyday use. Nowadays it's "Te Irirangi o Aotearoa" or "RNZ". Don't mention dreaded English terms! Some Radio New Zealand reporters fall over themselves trying to conform to a ruling from on high that they should introduce themselves in Te Reo, despite the fact that the concept of radio came from overseas, and was absolutely unknown to Maori.

We have also been told recently that all streets in New Zealand are to be given a Maori name. Wow. That will be an expensive exercise! Who will dream up the new names? The Maori Language Commission that seems to be churning out new words at 200 kph? And since Maori were very thin on the ground in the Auckland area in 1840 and were soon rapidly outnumbered by settlers, it won't be appropriate either. A relevant fact provided to members of the Waitangi Tribunal during the Kaipara case I heard was that in 1840 there were only 800 Maori living on the million acres of land between the Kaipara and East Tamaki. That fact will be conveniently overlooked. Nothing is sufficiently disrespectful for Pakeha whose street names quite often have family or historical significance to them.

Similar examples of cultural cringe are showing up with the move to teach New Zealand history in our schools. Scratch the surface and it becomes clear that those driving the idea want to downplay the huge significance of the arrival of European culture in New Zealand. Rather, they intend to replace it with only partially accurate accounts of the difficulties Maori faced when brought into contact with a more developed culture. Recently, I sought from the Ministry of Education details about who was designing the curriculum. Back came the names of a couple of black arm band school teachers and a collection of Maori radicals. There were a couple of academics, both Maori. No serious Pakeha historian in sight. We can say with certainty that a skewed version of New Zealand history will be devised, one that leaves out things like the Musket Wars where Maori did irreparable harm to their own economy and society. Instead, there will be much concentration on "evil" colonial land purchasers and settler governments, and excessive Maori land confiscations at the end of the wars of the 1860s. About the last of these, of course students must be told. The confiscations came on top of the damage that Maori had already done to themselves and helped further depress the Maori economy and damage Maori society. But what is taught to modern students should not exclude everything that reflects badly on Maori themselves. Moreover, kids need to know that up to 50% of Maori in the country in the 1860s sided with the Crown. And they need to be told why. The term "Kupapa Maori" to describe those Maori is regarded by modern Maori as equivalent to being called an "Uncle Tom". But it was respected in earlier times.

And if one needs any more evidence that cultural cringe has reached massive proportions in Auckland, have a look at the programme for the Auckland Arts Festival between 4-21 March 2021. Its Maori name, Te Ahurei Toi O Tamaki, takes precedence on the front cover. Remember, that in Auckland, Maori are only 11.5% of the total population. Pacific Islanders are 13% of Auckland's population and Asians constitute more than 25%, according to the latest census. People of European ethnicity make up more than 50% of Auckland's population, but in the eyes of the organisers of the festival they don't count. The programme includes "kapa haka, Maori artists, waiata sing alongs and korero [that] will bring the taonga that is te reo front and centre for audiences". Really? In a city where almost 90% of people are not of Maori ethnicity? Why hasn't Auckland City, Creative New Zealand, Foundation North and a collection of worthy sponsors spared a thought for the overwhelming majority of Auckland citizens and ratepayers? Where is the "equity" in this festival?

Answer: too much power has been allowed to slip into the hands of crusaders who for too long seem to have been able to commandeer the resources of others for their own political ends.

When, or will, Aucklanders, and New Zealanders as a whole, stop cringing and wake up to what is being done to their culture and largely with their money?
Copyright © 2017 Dr Michael Bassett