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Even Murdoch News is openly admitting what happened in American torture camps.


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Undried Plum wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:20 pm

He's an honourable man who did his best to get as many of the buggers into Britain as he dared.

The Afghans, I mean. The dogs were easier.

+1

What would it take to draw a line under the persecution and terrorist activities with everyone at peace with other factions?

Does it not strike you that people are prepared to commit suicide in order to revenge their cause?

It does occur to me that they do what they do to what they do to us in order to avenge what we do to them and to their families.

A JDAM or a Paveway or a Hellfire or Brimstone can make an awful lot of enemies, y'know.

That's why we're in the **** that we are in now.

Given that there appears to be an objective to convert 'infidels' to the ways of Mohammed should Christians (and non-believers) give-in and accept the inevitable?

After all, there was once a Worldwide campaign to convert everyone to Christianity. Why?

They haven't even got a brass band, ferfuxake!




Humvees, all that stuff, yeah, but not a breath of brass wind among 'em.

Theyrr aa' doomed I tell ye. Doomed.

They should have gone to Potter's Corner in Charing Cross. We'd have sorted something out for them. No tick, of course.

Thank God for politicians...

Not many politicians at Bagram or Gitmo.

PIA have operated into Kabul.

That's good, Prayers In The Air.

My first thought was it would stuff the economy with all those prayers.
My second thought was it completely stuff up the entire entertainment industry. At least nightclubs and Wetherspoons could be repurposed.
Then that it's a Chinese conspiracy.

That's 'PITA', John, as you would know.

Boac wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:58 am

That's 'PITA', John, as you would know.

Flying with PIA is really not much different to flying with any other international airline but I must admit it is annoying when on long haul (Karachi to Singapore for example) every hour or so they turn the plan around to face Mecca.

Poor Nav kit? Just doing a 3 drift wind?

..........Just doing a 3 drift wind?

Off topic but ... During my BOAC Nav. training, one of my instructors told me that I'd never make a real navigator so long as I had a hole in my axxse until I'd been over over Berlin with the shells coming through the cockpit as I tried to get the pilot to perform a three wind drift exercise to establish the wind to use for the return flight. Fortunately I never had to do that.

Thinks .... Having only recently arrived over Berlin and now returning home, what was wrong with using the wind that one had found on the flight from the UK, if one used the same winds just found one wouldn't be that far off track, so why was it necessary to perform the 3 wind exercise before returning home?

No blazing city to take a drift sight on? No Air Position Indicator?

ExSp, quite. Shall we say training habit - take a wind every XX minutes.

I used to get my first wind at height, see where that put me on the synoptic chart and look ahead on that chart which of course would have been based on many hours earlier.

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..........which of course would have been based on many hours earlier.

But good enough to say, - Job Done - Get The Hell Outta Here