Man shot dead as police respond to west Auckland Countdown attack
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Prime Minister says Auckland knife terrorist was violent extremist under heavy surveillance...
The Prime Minister said the man was “obviously a supporter of Isis ideology"...
Reported here in South Aussie TV news as being a Sri Lankan National with Islamic leanings.
No indication whether he was yelling about 'Allans Snack Bar' though.
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:44 am
by Boac
As with the London stabbings, one has to question the efficacy of the 'active surveillance'. In London it was reported that up to 9 police were allocated to the man.
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:13 pm
by prospector
I wonder if the Judge who ordered he be released from gaol be named? Apparently the release was based on the premise that "because he was only plotting a terror attack, it was not as bad as if he had carried out a terrorist attack". perhaps the folk who have ended up in hospital in critical condition can sue for some sort of damages from this judge for his gross error of judgement??
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:04 pm
by FD2
I think the legislation needed for dealing with these cases needs to be tightened up. The judge claimed his hands were tied by the way the current legislation is written. Time for a re-write then! Get on with it Labour. What a pipe dream.
Well done the cop who shot him - he's saved the country a shedload of money in prosecution fees and prison costs. Tough luck lawyers!
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:50 pm
by Dushan
Total knife ban in 3, 2, 1…
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:37 am
by prospector
How is it that this individual arrived on a student visa, when all his family apparently are also resident in the country??
"He arrived on a student visa in 2011 when he was 22. Five years later, he came to the attention of police for posting to Facebook about terror attacks and violent war videos."
No doubt all will be made clear tomorrow at the 'briefing'.
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:50 am
by Pinky the pilot
And apparently he was indeed loudly promoting 'Allans Snack Bar' during his rampage!
Well done the cop who shot him - he's saved the country a shedload of money in prosecution fees and prison costs. Tough luck lawyers!
+1
I'm also curious as to how he could have been in Unzud for 10 years on a Student Visa. And if so, how were all the rest of the Family also resident?
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:42 pm
by OFSO
Today's newspaper says police could do nothing since the act of preparing a terrorist attack isn't an offence in NZ. Unbelievable.
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:07 pm
by FD2
Unbelievable. +1
It seems as though the legislation is going to be altered at double quick time. Touchy feely only goes so far when there are murdering lunatics rampaging in the supermarket, especially when Government popularity has been waning of late.
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:19 pm
by PHXPhlyer
WTF
I can't believe that they followed him for 5 years and arrested and tried him at least twice.
I guess this will be the end of being able to have access to a knife without a licence in Kiwiland.
"His mother, Ismail Fareeda, has told a TV channel in Sri Lanka that neighbours from Syria and Iraq radicalised Aathil Samsudeen when he was injured in a fall in Sri Lanka in 2016.'
Beware of naughty neighbours!!!!!
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:51 am
by Pinky the pilot
I guess this will be the end of being able to have access to a knife without a licence in Kiwiland.
Don't laugh PHXPhyler, but a number of years ago after a few incidents concerning knife crimes here in Australia, some Politician seriously brought up the subject of having all knives 'registered' as were/are firearms.
From memory, he was very quickly told to 'pull his bloody head in!'
Or in other words, STFU.
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:50 pm
by Rossian
May be there are rather bigger probs in NZ. Harbour at Picton, a small rail tug drove up to where the rail ferry docks and drove off the end with what it was towing - kersplash!! One of the other ferries came out of dry dock and its main gearbox gave up the ghost. That leaves one ship and there are a lot of trucks on both sides of the strait trying to get to the other island. But the dock that the trains load on is still to be cleared from the little "incident". Oooooer missus!
WTF
I can't believe that they followed him for 5 years and arrested and tried him at least twice.
I guess this will be the end of being able to have access to a knife without a licence in Kiwiland.
PP
Imagine, you would need a licence to eat a good steak!
Imagine, you would need a licence to eat a good steak!
No problem if you have teeth like ower Jacinda's.
Re: New Zealand
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:05 pm
by FD2
Maybe the steak knives could be kept on a short chain tied to the table...
Even Saint Jacinda knows there's only so much woke legislation she can introduce so I think the knife business will just have to be ignored (I hope!). She has fallen in the popularity ratings lately, mainly due to the low vaccination rate (not yet 25% I think) set against a raging Delta outbreak in Sydney (now over 800 cases in Auckland and Wellington but slowing due to swift lockdown) and some escapes from hotel quarantine facilities. Trouble is we are lacking a viable opposition at present so the going is very easy for her.
Imagine, you would need a licence to eat a good steak!
No problem if you have teeth like ower Jacinda's.
As the Afrikaans might say, "sy eet met lang tande". Literally, she eats with long teeth, that is, she eats reluctantly... and sticking with the number 8 wire theme introduced by FD2, I can add a Saffer homily there too, namely "'n boer maak plan! That is 'n farmer always makes 'n plan,and that plan usually involves wire of some sort!
Mind you the thriftiest person I ever met was a New Zealander! Andrew Stenhouse, the Kiwi, I mention, worked for me in the 1990's and I sent him to New York to work on a project and gave him an allowance of some $40.00 a day over and above his hotel food and board, for simple living expenses. He arrived back in Blighty and returned more money than I had given him for his expenses. His frugality, caused me ever so much trouble with the bean counters, and set such a terrible precedent! I suspect he decided to live in a tree in Central Park and had pawned the hotel room
