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#361 Post by FD2 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:26 am

I think it's not just Ardern who thinks she knows better than anyone else.

We all know about this: But as a WEF Young Global Leader, she obviously knows more than the rest of NZ about how to run the country and how to vainly attempt to emulate the CCP ambition of ‘zero-plague’ dragging the NZ economy deeper into trouble. but I think it should be in the past tense don't you?

Your obsession with her is amusing but we know she'll be gone at the next election and hopefully you'll be able to calm down by then. Don't forget she was elected as 'prime minister' - you know - the person who 'runs the country'. It's not some sort of free for all.

As for the cruise ship passengers I have no idea whether they are showing results of tests or not but just read that they are infected with Covid - I'm afraid I'm not a medical expert, personally.

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#362 Post by barkingmad » Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:39 pm

Meanwhile in a paradise only 2,000 miles away from the Toothy Tyrant some rather unusual outbreaks of disease have occurred but little is known for obvious reasons;

https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/the-kil ... s-of-samoa

But of course we know whom we can blame for such bad management;

"The country was a colony of the German Empire from 1899 to 1915, then came under a joint British and New Zealand colonial administration until 1 January 1962, when it became independent."

Only 60 years of independence and still screwing it up, but never due to bribes and/or coercion by BigPharma.

I wonder how long before the demand for reparations lands on the EUropeans' desks.

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#363 Post by PHXPhlyer » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:05 pm

Voting age of 18 is discriminatory, New Zealand’s top court rules
An advocacy group wants the age lowered to include 16- and 17-year-olds, and the decision requires lawmakers to discuss the idea.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new- ... -rcna58109

WELLINGTON, New Zealand — New Zealand’s highest court ruled on Monday that the country’s current voting age of 18 was discriminatory, forcing Parliament to discuss whether it should be lowered.

The case, which has been going through the courts since 2020, was bought by advocacy group Make It 16, which wants the age lowered to include 16- and 17-year-olds.

The Supreme Court found that the current voting age of 18 was inconsistent with the country’s Bill of Rights, which gives people a right to be free from age discrimination when they have reached 16.

The decision triggers a process in which the issue must come before Parliament for discussion and be reviewed by a parliamentary select committee. But it does not force Parliament to change the voting age.

“This is history,” said Make It 16 co-director Caeden Tipler, adding: “The government and Parliament cannot ignore such a clear legal and moral message. They must let us vote.”

The group says on its website there is insufficient justification to stop 16-year-olds from voting when they can drive, work full time and pay tax.

Political parties in New Zealand have mixed views on the subject. The Green Party wants immediate action to lower the voting age to 16, but the largest opposition party, the National Party, does not support the shift.

“Obviously, we’ve got to draw a line somewhere,” said National Party leader Christopher Luxon. “We’re comfortable with the line being 18. Lots of different countries have different places where the line’s drawn and from our point of view, 18’s just fine.”

The Labour government has not publicly commented on the decision.

Why stop at 16.
Allow everyone a vote, including those In utero.
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#364 Post by OFSO » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:03 pm

In fact one might allocate an extra vote to copulating heterosexual couples not using condoms on the assumption they will produce an offspring. Oh wait, that's discrimination against homosexual and lesbian couples....

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#365 Post by barkingmad » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:04 pm

A fascinating and obviously little known fact about 'yoof' brains which is conveniently ignored or possibly utilised by those seeking votes from the mentally immature.

"It is well established that the brain undergoes a “rewiring” process that is not complete until approximately 25 years of age. This discovery has enhanced our basic understanding regarding adolescent brain maturation and it has provided support for behaviors experienced in late adolescence and early adulthood. Several investigators consider the age span 10–24 years as adolescence, which can be further divided into substages specific to physical, cognitive, and social–emotional development".

Why is it that 2 of the female western society looney leaders are pushing for this group of children to be given the vote? I refer specifically to the NZ Toothy Tyrant and the UK's very own Wee Nicola Krankie in Scotland.

Coincidentally they are also at the battlefront when it comes to the gender wars currently being waged by mostly left-wing factions but that's another story...

Here is the article from which I extracted the above quote in case by now we might have lost the will to live and just turned over to the Qatar farce;

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621648/ :-? :-w

Edited to add: Re the OFSO suggestion for breeding couples, judging from these reported findings, which have nothing to do with the effects of the 'plague' or the countermeasures implemented, there may not be many successful applicants for the extra vote(s)?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... tudy-finds

But it will be fun trying hard (NPI!) just the same, so let's not spoil their fun by being downbeat!? =))

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#366 Post by FD2 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:25 pm

Why stop at 16.
Allow everyone a vote, including those In utero.


Exactly - if it's age discrimination to set it at 18 then we might as well let 5 year olds have the vote. The Labour Party is clearly in favour of 16 because youngsters have a rose tinted specs view of the World and not a lot of common sense, so will vote for the party that's kind to whales and possums and wants to bankrupt us in the pursuit of 'climate change' matters, in a country that produces a tiny portion of the overall pollution. Maybe they should be paid to go off and demonstrate in China, India, Russia to convince them of their polluting ways! I seem to remember that Jacinda's old boss Bliar was also keen on giving the vote to children. Gerrymandering influences outcomes through boundary manipulation, this would through young easily manipulated minds.

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#367 Post by prospector » Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:41 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national ... c5395df442

""Our country has become lawless. Here, a law-abiding dairy worker killed for doing their job leaving us numb with shock. We hope the community will join with us to assist the friends and family of this victim in the most awful of circumstances."

Back in August, the Government passed a bill repealing the three strikes law, which automatically hands maximum sentences to criminals who commit three serious crimes.

An evidence brief supplied by Corrections, Police and the Ministry of Justice found there was no substantial evidence on the effect of such a law, either domestically or overseas.

Kaushal said in the statement they are "beyond angry" at this "useless government".

"Last December, almost a year to the day, we warned repeal of three-strikes was a victory for lawlessness and disorder sending all the wrong signals. We warned someone would end up being seriously injured or killed," he said.

"We were promised a meeting with the Minister of Justice in June. Nothing has been arranged. The Police Minister met with us after being publicly shamed by Mike Hosking, something we thank Mr Hosking for. In more than the month since meeting, there's been zero reply."

The next election cannot come soon enough, the people calling for voting age to be lowered to 16 no doubt believe if a person is old enough to go out ram raiding they would be old enough to help vote this crowd of F...wits back into power.

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#368 Post by llondel » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:51 pm

PHXPhlyer wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:05 pm
Why stop at 16.
Allow everyone a vote, including those In utero.
:ymdevil:
Isn't that starting a bit late? What about those billions of sperm? Surely they should be allowed half a vote each?

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#369 Post by PHXPhlyer » Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:06 pm

llondel wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:51 pm
PHXPhlyer wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:05 pm
Why stop at 16.
Allow everyone a vote, including those In utero.
:ymdevil:
Isn't that starting a bit late? What about those billions of sperm? Surely they should be allowed half a vote each?
I did consider that option as well, however, I concluded that it wouldn't be a fair election as the sperms would far outnumber the ova.:ymdevil:

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#370 Post by ExSp33db1rd » Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:10 am

Total Madness. Many aspects of NZ currently giving us thought to upsticks and leave, but currently many situations in the options we might consider appear to be worse ! So we'll hunker down and bend with the wind - of which there is much at the moment, Summer ? Don't make me laugh.

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#371 Post by FD2 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:46 am

Royal Commission to investigate Covid response:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politi ... 9-response

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#372 Post by prospector » Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:57 am

Now we will really be in the world headlines, such a claim to fame!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national ... 7aeb496a74

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern to feature in Prince Harry and Meghan's 'Live to Lead' documentary
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"Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has featured in the trailer for a new Neflix series produced by Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.

The Netflix documentary series, Live to Lead, was inspired by anti-apartheid activist and former South African President Nelson Mandela, the Duke of Sussex said early on in the trailer.

The drop of the trailer comes soon after Prince Harry and Meghan's own documentary series was released on Netflix, where they shared their own experience being in the royal family."

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#373 Post by FD2 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:02 am

Stand by for odious comparisons of the wonder couple with any famous and more deserving folk they can shoehorn into their series. All commentary spoken in true Californian psychobabble.

I suppose it might be marginally better than sniping at his family, though I wouldn't have put Ardern in a series that included Nelson Mandela. I wonder who else might be included.

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#374 Post by FD2 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:06 am

From the Telegraph:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-famil ... ry-series/

It will be released on December 31 and features seven, 25-minute episodes comprising interviews with climate change activist Greta Thunberg, the late associate justice of the US Supreme Court Ruth Bader Ginsburg, feminist campaigner Gloria Steinem and New Zealand prime minister Jacinda *Ahern among others.

*Ahern? =))

Thunberg? X( Juvenile crosspatch, included to appeal to teenagers.

Netflix said the series would allow "extraordinary" leaders to "reflect on their legacies and share messages of courage, compassion, humility, hope and generosity". 

It said the programme would "highlight the fundamental values, daily disciplines and guiding principles that leaders employ to motivate others and create meaningful change". 

The series was created by New Zealand-based production company Blackwell & Ruth and produced in association with the Sussexes’ Archewell Productions and the Nelson Mandela Foundation.

The Duke and Duchess are named as executive producers.

It is based on I Know This to Be True, a series of interviews first produced as books by Blackwell & Ruth, in conjunction with the Nelson Mandela Foundation, in 2020.


Now, how many comparisons are we to draw with the gruesome twosome again?

I have a daily prayer, which is 'never let that pair move to New Zealand'.

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#375 Post by 1DC » Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:08 am

Spect when they got the offer to be included their first demand would be executive producers so it looked as if they had been involved! Wont bother me I don't watch Netflix.

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#376 Post by FD2 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:25 pm

Wise move Jacinda!! :)) =)) =))

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... eghan.html

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#377 Post by FD2 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:11 pm


Comment from Daily Telegraph

Now not even woke queen Jacinda Ardern wants anything to do with Harry and Meghan


After being stitched up in the Netflix series, New Zealand’s PM has been quick to dissociate herself. It's a sign of things to come
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21 December 2022 • 12:18pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... -do-harry/

For the next stage in building the Harry and Meghan global brand it must have seemed the perfect opportunity. The couple would move on from their brave stand against racism in the UK royal family by presenting a series of interviews with some of the world’s other great inspirational leaders: Jacinda Ardern, Greta Thunberg, Gloria Steinem, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Better still, it would be done under the auspices of the Nelson Mandela Foundation — the man whose release from jail rates alongside Meghan’s wedding in the emotions of black South Africans (at least in Meghan’s imagination).

It didn’t take long, though, for the wheels to start to rattle on Harry and Meghan’s PR wagon. Firstly, there was the issue of how the couple could have managed to interview Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who died on September 18 2020, just two weeks after their $100 million deal with Netflix was announced. Maybe, just maybe, they had been dispatched to Washington to spend time on the sofa with Ginsburg before she died — but then the wheels really started to come off. Jacinda Ardern’s office let it be known in no uncertain terms that Harry and Meghan had had absolutely nothing to do with the interview she agreed to give to the Nelson Mandela Foundation in November 2019, a time when the couple were still ensconced at Frogmore and getting more and more disillusioned with the grind of royal life.

Ardern’s office had only heard that Netflix had done a deal to broadcast her interview in March 2021. Harry and Meghan’s involvement did not emerge for another 12 months. When Ardern agreed to give her interview the whole thing was conducted by a New Zealand production company, Blackwell & Ruth. Only in recent months has the series suddenly become a joint venture with Archewell Productions. Ardern’s office made clear that at no point has she had any contact with Harry and Meghan in connection with the interview.

I am sure there are worse cases in the annals of television history of big names being used to promote work done by others, but it does say something about Harry and Meghan’s marketability that New Zealand’s prime Minister has been so quick to dissociate herself from the couple. On paper, there ought to be no better soul mates. All three purport to champion progressive values and have a big following on the liberal-left (at least in the US, in the case of Harry and Meghan). Ardern did, indeed, meet Harry and Meghan when the latter toured New Zealand as royals in 2018, and they seemed to get on like a house on fire. After the meeting, Ardern said she had been impressed with Meghan’s stamina, given that she was pregnant at the time, and described her as an “amazing woman”.

Or now, it appears, a woman with an amazing cheek. Ardern’s statement is a sign that Harry and Meghan’s name may be becoming a damaged brand. Now they have typecast themselves as perpetual victims, and cashed in on their bust-up with the royal family, it is going to be very difficult for them to escape from that mould. Much though they might aspire to establish themselves as inspirational global leaders, their value is as former royals with a grievance. What people have come to expect from them is sensational accusations against Harry’s father and brother, a modern-day Greek tragedy in regular instalments. The irony is that a couple who lose no opportunity to blast the tabloids have condemned themselves to be tabloid fare for ever after. 

No wonder high-minded liberals like Jacinda Ardern want nothing to do with them. 



Must be an election next year or maybe the thought of no more RF visits to New Zealand for a long time?

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#378 Post by Woody » Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:13 pm

Maybe they’ll launch an attack on West Island for extra supplies :-o
New Zealand is in the grip of a nationwide egg shortage which is driving up wholesale prices and putting its much-loved dessert, pavlova, at risk.
Supermarket shelves are bare and some stores are putting restrictions on the number of eggs customers can buy.
A long-awaited government ban on battery-caged hens came into effect this month, squeezing supplies and driving up costs.
Michael Books, executive director of the country's Egg Producers Federation, says there now aren't enough hens in New Zealand to keep up with demand.
"There are currently 3.5 million laying hens," he says, "but 3.9 million are needed to ensure supply".
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#379 Post by FD2 » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:11 pm

As Woody says, things have moved fairly slowly on this subject. The Government stated ten years ago that caged/battery egg production would be stopped in 2023. :-$

No one could blame the Government for not keeping an eye on the egg production industry and warning its citizens of impending shortages :((

Cue empty egg shelves in the supermarkets in the last two weeks, like toilet paper flew off the shelves during the Covid scares. :-o

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#380 Post by Karearea » Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:18 am

Breaking news: Jacinda Ardern announces she will resign as prime minister by February 7th

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/48 ... n-february
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