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French Knickers in a twist!

#1 Post by AtomKraft » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:06 pm

The poor Frogs are upset because the Aussies have cancelled their order for 12 Subs, and bought from the new AUKUS lot.

The French think it's jolly bad form for them to be treated this way.

As a supporter of Brexit, I say 'ha ha'. What goes around, comes around.

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#2 Post by AtomKraft » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:36 am

Zut Alors!
Sacre Bleu!
The Froggies have withdrawn their Ambassadors to Washington, and Canberra too!

Ooh la la😂😂😂

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#3 Post by Hydromet » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:47 am

I think Australia was a bit pissed off with the Ffrench over problems with the current submarine build.

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#4 Post by OFSO » Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:54 am

The EU Commission has always hated the European Space Agency (ESA) because of its independence, being able to place contracts and hire staff from outside the EU, ie. France. For this reason the EU spent millions this summer, setting up a rival Space Agency, eventually to take over ESA. Sadly while the EU staff were running around patting themselves on their backs and enjoying amazing lunches in Prague, Joseph Ashbacher, ESA's new DG, seized the initiative in noting the need for new Moon/Earth communications links (the Lunar Pathfinder system) and signed lucrative contracts with Surrey Satellite Technology (STL) in the UK. Outrage in the EU (France) at a non-EU country being given work that should rightfully have gone to the EU, ie France. Too late, mes snail-chewing amis.

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#5 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:43 am

The same allies that supported Argentina? The same allies that depend upon British flown American helicopters?

I shall change my wine order to Australian.

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#6 Post by Boac » Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:32 am

Un ajustement sifflant?

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#7 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:44 pm

Hydromet wrote:
Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:47 am
I think Australia was a bit pissed off with the Ffrench over problems with the current submarine build.
The only rational comment on this ridiculous thread. The Aussies will end up paying big penalty clauses for welshing on the contract! The US threw the British poodle a bone on this one. The only country that will benefit in the end will be the US and Putin's Russia which will be exulting at the strains this piece of bad faith will put on the Western alliance and NATO.

Some of the Kleine Englander crap spouted here makes me think, would I buy a used car from any of these untrustworthy bastards?

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#8 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:43 pm

The last Anglo-US submarine had to have a plug in the middle so the British left could connect with the American right.

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#9 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:53 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:43 pm
The last Anglo-US submarine had to have a plug in the middle so the British left could connect with the American right.
Literally, laterally, politically or chirality? ;)))
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#10 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:59 pm

Literally.

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#11 Post by OFSO » Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:46 pm

Penalty clause. French contract unfufilled, products late and price doubled or more.

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#12 Post by ricardian » Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:56 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
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The last Anglo-US submarine had to have a plug in the middle so the British left could connect with the American right.
The Airbus A380 wiring loom problem!
Since the early 1990s, Airbus sites in France, where the A380's nose and central fuselage sections are built, have used a package of two powerful three-dimensional computer modeling programs called Catia and Circe. Developed by the French software maker Dassault Systèmes, they were used successfully on the A340 and, according to Williams, the Airbus programs chief, "were constantly being improved."
Company officials said the head of the A380 program, Charles Champion, sought to persuade the managers of the Hamburg design shops of Airbus to adopt the French software for use with the A380 as early as 2001.
He met a wall.
German engineers preferred to work with an older design software made by a U.S. company, Computervision. The program had been the gold standard of industrial design tools in the 1980s but was only capable of producing two-dimensional blueprints.
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#13 Post by ricardian » Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:58 pm

ricardian wrote:
Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:56 pm
Pontius Navigator wrote:
Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:43 pm
The last Anglo-US submarine had to have a plug in the middle so the British left could connect with the American right.
The Airbus A380 wiring loom problem!
By late autumn, a team of around 200 German mechanics was in Toulouse along with several hundred kilometers of electrical cables to be installed in the first planes. But after weeks of painstakingly threading thousands of veins of copper and aluminum wire around the walls and floor panels of the airframes, the teams had run into a maddening snag: the cables were too short.

Since the early 1990s, Airbus sites in France, where the A380's nose and central fuselage sections are built, have used a package of two powerful three-dimensional computer modeling programs called Catia and Circe. Developed by the French software maker Dassault Systèmes, they were used successfully on the A340 and, according to Williams, the Airbus programs chief, "were constantly being improved."
Company officials said the head of the A380 program, Charles Champion, sought to persuade the managers of the Hamburg design shops of Airbus to adopt the French software for use with the A380 as early as 2001.
He met a wall.
German engineers preferred to work with an older design software made by a U.S. company, Computervision. The program had been the gold standard of industrial design tools in the 1980s but was only capable of producing two-dimensional blueprints.
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#14 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:30 am

OFSO wrote:
Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:46 pm
Penalty clause. French contract unfufilled, products late and price doubled or more.
That's what I heard too. It was a modular contact so anything not completed could be cancelled.

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#15 Post by Rossian » Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:07 am

Mr Morrison says they were have doubts about the contract and its product "for some time". Does anyone know what caused the doubts? Was it the wrong sub in the wrong place at the wrong time? I feel we should be told.

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#16 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:14 am

Rossian, I think you nailed it. Of course unlike the ffrench, the SSNs will come in underbudget, on time, and fit for purpose on day 1.
The existing port facilities will be more than adequate.
Current crews will be able to transition to the new technology with minimal training.

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#17 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:10 pm

Current crews will be able to transition to the new technology with minimal training.
So, Boeing are making them?

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#18 Post by AtomKraft » Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:22 pm

The French are outraged and humiliated- that's for sure.

They expect that they can treat us however they like, as in throughout the Brexit process and nothing will happen in return.

Wrong!

They can't be surprised if they wage what amounts to economic war with a key ally, and then find themselves humiliated in return.

The French should know better than most, don't fcuk with the British.

If you want to be treated like a friend- act like one.

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#19 Post by 1DC » Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:43 pm

I heard that the contract had been nothing but arguments with the French not keeping to what was agreed, particularly with regard to the amount of work to be carried out in Australia by Australians.

Lets face it who would buy a French car never mind a French submarine..

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#20 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:50 pm

I'll never buy a French car again.

Mind you, never bought one yet 😁

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