Millions of us might be **** if we ignore the Russian-Ukraine war
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None of the south bank settlements near Kherson the Russians have left have been occupied by Ukrainian regular troops. There are reports of continuing gun battles on the Kinburn Spit.
This is believed to be Ukrainian partisans, but may be Uke SF, or both (probably not co-ordinated).
This is believed to be Ukrainian partisans, but may be Uke SF, or both (probably not co-ordinated).
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This is a familiar story, and why Russia is losing.
I've seen almost identical complaint videos from mobiks around Svatove.
It's not just lack of combat equipment, but no comms, no orders that make sense, no contingency orders, and no support.
Note that the Ukrainians didn't risk a single soldier to cause this unit to take casualties and retreat.
Mortars,
then drone-corrected mortars,
then drones with bombs.
I've seen almost identical complaint videos from mobiks around Svatove.
It's not just lack of combat equipment, but no comms, no orders that make sense, no contingency orders, and no support.
Note that the Ukrainians didn't risk a single soldier to cause this unit to take casualties and retreat.
Mortars,
then drone-corrected mortars,
then drones with bombs.
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The US is to supply 90 Upgraded T-72s to Ukraine (same lot as I mentioned last week)
..however, the major supplier of T-72s to the Ukrainian Army remains..the Russian Army!
Note that one of these was abandoned after it hit one of Russia's own mines! (They must get them from ACME, like Wile E Coyote does )
Meanwhile, further east in Luhansk Oblast, about 40 miles behind the Svatove lines
Note that this settlement is on the road that leads south from Starobilsk (about 17 miles from it) which I mentioned earlier this morning was hit by HIMARS/MRLS, as I suspect this was.
It was probably a divisional level staging area.
..however, the major supplier of T-72s to the Ukrainian Army remains..the Russian Army!
Note that one of these was abandoned after it hit one of Russia's own mines! (They must get them from ACME, like Wile E Coyote does )
Meanwhile, further east in Luhansk Oblast, about 40 miles behind the Svatove lines
Note that this settlement is on the road that leads south from Starobilsk (about 17 miles from it) which I mentioned earlier this morning was hit by HIMARS/MRLS, as I suspect this was.
It was probably a divisional level staging area.
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I can't help but to feel sorry for these guys. Conscripted, sent in with hardly any equipment, training, or proper leadership to fight a war that they want no part of.Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:58 pmThis is a familiar story, and why Russia is losing.
I've seen almost identical complaint videos from mobiks around Svatove.
It's not just lack of combat equipment, but no comms, no orders that make sense, no contingency orders, and no support.
Note that the Ukrainians didn't risk a single soldier to cause this unit to take casualties and retreat.
Mortars,
then drone-corrected mortars,
then drones with bombs.
It is a shame that a win for Ukraine comes at the expense of these poor bastards.
PP
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They are still occupying a sovereign country, and by holding the line, however briefly, allowing the FSB to run around torturing and murdering whomever they don't like the look of.
I have no sympathy at all.
I feel sorry for the guys who have had to use all their life savings, and leave their job and their friends and family, to do a runner and avoid Mobilization, as long as they did a runner out of principle.
I suspect so many did a runner that there was no point using vast resources to try and mobilize any more, and that's why putin stopped it. This is effective civil disobedience against an illegitimate government.
I have no sympathy at all.
I feel sorry for the guys who have had to use all their life savings, and leave their job and their friends and family, to do a runner and avoid Mobilization, as long as they did a runner out of principle.
I suspect so many did a runner that there was no point using vast resources to try and mobilize any more, and that's why putin stopped it. This is effective civil disobedience against an illegitimate government.
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Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:24 pmWinston Churchill"I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma"
Meanwhile
This appears to say that NATO will "respond" even if there's an accidental strike.
It does not, literally, commit the US or NATO to anything, but it's obviously intended to get the Russians thinking twice about having western Ukraine on the cruise missile target list.
This afternoon Victoria Nuland's warmongering puppet doubled down on his nonsense and is demanding that Poland give access to the crashsite of the Ukrainian missile and they be allowed to participated in the 'investigation.
Even more disturbingly, the Nuland clique are talking about "an act of Russian "missile terror"" and about "Collective NATO defense".
We are playing a very dangerous game by employing these neo-Nazi puppets.
A pan-European and wider war has never been so likely since May 1945. Even in the darkest days of the Cold War it was never this bad.
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Cheerleader for the Invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, that Victoria Nuland?
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Close to midnight, and the electricity sub-station in Dzhankoi appears to have been attacked,
This is the Russian main transport hub in NE Crimea. It's outside HIMARS range.
The rail lines are all electrified here.
This fits with a pattern of rear echelon attacks by the Ukrainians today.
As to how and why, who can say?
Dzhankoi had its rail marshalling yards hit a few months ago. We never found out how.
In case you weren't aware, big transformers are oil-cooled, and do explode big-time when breached or shorted, so it could have been a small raid by SF/partisans which used small charges to blow the transformers, which are the big bangs you hear.
This is the Russian main transport hub in NE Crimea. It's outside HIMARS range.
The rail lines are all electrified here.
This fits with a pattern of rear echelon attacks by the Ukrainians today.
As to how and why, who can say?
Dzhankoi had its rail marshalling yards hit a few months ago. We never found out how.
In case you weren't aware, big transformers are oil-cooled, and do explode big-time when breached or shorted, so it could have been a small raid by SF/partisans which used small charges to blow the transformers, which are the big bangs you hear.
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https://www.rt.com/news/566656-poland-l ... aign=Email
"Poland should rethink its position towards the conflict in Ukraine after a “provocation” on the part of Kiev that cost two villagers their lives, a former city councilman in Lublin said on Wednesday. Jaroslaw Pakula, whose term ended four days before the incident, said the missile that struck Przewodow was obviously Ukrainian and that the government in Warsaw needed to send a message to Kiev instead of telling “fairy tales” to its citizens.
“Of course, this is a Ukrainian rocket. Of course, this is a provocation on the part of the Ukrainian authorities,” Pakula posted on his Facebook page. “The rocket could not be fired 100km in the opposite direction by mistake.”
The purpose of the provocation was to scare the EU and get civil society support for sending even more weapons to Ukraine, Pakula added. Instead of telling “fairy tales” about the missile, the Polish president should tell Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky that Warsaw “will no longer put up with this behavior” by Kiev. "
Even now, many hours after this was first reported as a Russian missile attack, many news outlets have not corrected their first guesses.
"Poland should rethink its position towards the conflict in Ukraine after a “provocation” on the part of Kiev that cost two villagers their lives, a former city councilman in Lublin said on Wednesday. Jaroslaw Pakula, whose term ended four days before the incident, said the missile that struck Przewodow was obviously Ukrainian and that the government in Warsaw needed to send a message to Kiev instead of telling “fairy tales” to its citizens.
“Of course, this is a Ukrainian rocket. Of course, this is a provocation on the part of the Ukrainian authorities,” Pakula posted on his Facebook page. “The rocket could not be fired 100km in the opposite direction by mistake.”
The purpose of the provocation was to scare the EU and get civil society support for sending even more weapons to Ukraine, Pakula added. Instead of telling “fairy tales” about the missile, the Polish president should tell Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky that Warsaw “will no longer put up with this behavior” by Kiev. "
Even now, many hours after this was first reported as a Russian missile attack, many news outlets have not corrected their first guesses.
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The original AP Report, and my comment on it at the time
And you should remember this any time any media outlet claims "a senior xxxx official". Anonymous attribution used to be a good way for the public to get the truth. Now it's mostly a cover for partisan lying.
And the same applies to the rubbish prospector has just posted.
There are a huge number of things that can go wrong. It IS rocket science. It's very hard.
I went looking for a targeting error, since these tend to be most common.
In this case, what probably happened was a Ukrainian SAM was fired at a Russian cruise missile. It may have been fired out of manoeuvring limits, or lost guidance, or the Russian missile impacted its target shortly after SAM launch, or the proximity fusing failed, or......you get the idea. I could go on for pages. And what was left ballisticly ended up on a Polish farm. Maybe the Ukrainians could self-destruct the missile, and if so maybe they tried to, but that didn't work.
How, by your own reasoning, can you quote RT after all the lies and billhooks they've come up with, especially recently?
And especially quoting some retired councillor, whose expertise on rocket science is about the same as Wile E Coyote's?
Then we gotAP says "a senior US Intelligence official" has said it was Russian missiles. I put about as much credence on that as I do anything from the media, but YMMV.
and now we getAP now has "three anonymous US officials" saying it was a Ukrainian missile.
Which I guess out-ranks their earlier "a senior US Intelligence official", who said it was Russian.
..and the people who said the Poles said it was a Russian missile have now quietly changed that to Russian-made missile.
It is not at all common for the legacy media to admit their mistakes. Mostly they just shove it back on p94, close commenting, then quietly scrub it from their search records (not their actual records, because that's a legal thing, but the search records, so you can't find it) a while later. It's only because AP was about the first out with the claim, and the facts came out the opposite shortly after, and the issue is still current two days later, that they have felt obliged to do so.Correction: Russia-Ukraine-War story
By Associated Press
November 16, 2022 at 3:22 p.m. EST
WARSAW, Poland — In earlier versions of a story published November 15, 2022, The Associated Press reported erroneously, based on information from a senior American intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity, that Russian missiles had crossed into Poland and killed two people. Subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack.
And you should remember this any time any media outlet claims "a senior xxxx official". Anonymous attribution used to be a good way for the public to get the truth. Now it's mostly a cover for partisan lying.
And the same applies to the rubbish prospector has just posted.
No, it wasn't, as should be obvious from what was posted in numerous images taken from the scene. It wasn't possible to tell from either the crater, the damage, or the fragments initially shown whose missile it was.the missile that struck Przewodow was obviously Ukrainian
Oh yes rockets can end up 100km in the opposite direction by mistake. One look at the size of any nation's rocket testing ranges will tell you that.Of course, this is a provocation on the part of the Ukrainian authorities,...The rocket could not be fired 100km in the opposite direction by mistake.
There are a huge number of things that can go wrong. It IS rocket science. It's very hard.
I went looking for a targeting error, since these tend to be most common.
In this case, what probably happened was a Ukrainian SAM was fired at a Russian cruise missile. It may have been fired out of manoeuvring limits, or lost guidance, or the Russian missile impacted its target shortly after SAM launch, or the proximity fusing failed, or......you get the idea. I could go on for pages. And what was left ballisticly ended up on a Polish farm. Maybe the Ukrainians could self-destruct the missile, and if so maybe they tried to, but that didn't work.
Absolutely. So why do you keep quoting them?Even now, many hours after this was first reported as a Russian missile attack, many news outlets have not corrected their first guesses.
How, by your own reasoning, can you quote RT after all the lies and billhooks they've come up with, especially recently?
And especially quoting some retired councillor, whose expertise on rocket science is about the same as Wile E Coyote's?
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Further Russian missiles inbound. Explosions in Dnipro and Vilniansk, possibly Kyiv also.
dashcam from Dnipro - as if morning commutes weren't bad enough in November
Stremusov's car - RT reported he died in an accident with a semi truck.
A semi truck that appears to have had automatic weapons. These pictures have been available for days.
putin is still a gangster. You'll still get murdered even if you do everything he asks.
dashcam from Dnipro - as if morning commutes weren't bad enough in November
Stremusov's car - RT reported he died in an accident with a semi truck.
A semi truck that appears to have had automatic weapons. These pictures have been available for days.
putin is still a gangster. You'll still get murdered even if you do everything he asks.
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Ukrainian Grain Export Initiative extended for another four months
Ships cleared per day - about 8
Ships cleared per day when Russia pulled out - 46
Ships cleared per day now Russia is back in - 8
Supply Ukraine with ATACMS
Mass strike of Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol
Ships cleared per day - unlimited - no need for protection.
Ships cleared per day - about 8
Ships cleared per day when Russia pulled out - 46
Ships cleared per day now Russia is back in - 8
Supply Ukraine with ATACMS
Mass strike of Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol
Ships cleared per day - unlimited - no need for protection.
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Lots of groups are funding and sending IR sights for Ukrainian snipers.
They are not cheap, many thousands of dollars each, but...
This is the difference it makes.
The Russian soldiers are well drilled, probably elite troops or SF.
They immediately go into all round cover
They try to recover their casualties
They keep moving and rearranging the cover as they lose guys
But it makes no difference if the Uke sniper can see you, and you can't see him. 80% losses.
They are not cheap, many thousands of dollars each, but...
This is the difference it makes.
The Russian soldiers are well drilled, probably elite troops or SF.
They immediately go into all round cover
They try to recover their casualties
They keep moving and rearranging the cover as they lose guys
But it makes no difference if the Uke sniper can see you, and you can't see him. 80% losses.
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Ukrainian troops about to mount up on their helos.
This was released today.
It's described as an amphib assault, so there will be boats too.
The Russians know this is coming, so they have been going around putting bullet holes in all the boats.
However, some panicked idiots on their own side will open fire on anything, and so there's a red-on-red. At least one casualty.
This was released just a minute ago.
This was released today.
It's described as an amphib assault, so there will be boats too.
The Russians know this is coming, so they have been going around putting bullet holes in all the boats.
However, some panicked idiots on their own side will open fire on anything, and so there's a red-on-red. At least one casualty.
This was released just a minute ago.
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Two shootdowns of Russian Kalibr cruise missiles over Kyiv this morning.
Infrastructure targets are perfectly valid, but if the Russians are only doing one raid a day, why do it in the rush hour?
They must like killing schoolchildren, and commuters.
Infrastructure targets are perfectly valid, but if the Russians are only doing one raid a day, why do it in the rush hour?
They must like killing schoolchildren, and commuters.
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More good news from Kyiv - 100% interceptions!
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The Ukes are now doing infrastructure strikes on the Russians
As far as I can assertain, only the Dzhankoi strike was successful, however, it's still very important for everywhere north of there.
A follow up to the red-on-red earlier. It is being suggested that this was not accidental, but the barrier troops firing on anyone, including their own side who might have been retreating. Which is why the firing does not stop.
As far as I can assertain, only the Dzhankoi strike was successful, however, it's still very important for everywhere north of there.
A follow up to the red-on-red earlier. It is being suggested that this was not accidental, but the barrier troops firing on anyone, including their own side who might have been retreating. Which is why the firing does not stop.
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I am seeing videos of more Russian pillboxes and tank obstacles, plus other defences, moved onto places which form a line 30 miles from the Crimea isthmuses, which is what I forecast a few days ago.
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The line would appear to run from Blahodatne in the west, through Chaplynka and Chkalove, towards Melitopol.
Be aware that there are several settlements with the same names elsewhere in Ukraine.
Looks like the Russian generals have also worked out they can't hold most of southern Kherson Oblast.
viewtopic.php?p=350681#p350681
The line would appear to run from Blahodatne in the west, through Chaplynka and Chkalove, towards Melitopol.
Be aware that there are several settlements with the same names elsewhere in Ukraine.
Looks like the Russian generals have also worked out they can't hold most of southern Kherson Oblast.
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Whether you agree with Col. Richard Kemp or not, and in this case I don't, the article in today's DT is a good summary of the possible risk factors and actions of putin in the future.
I just think the risks are not as great as he does, but they are all relevant factors.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... red-admit/
I just think the risks are not as great as he does, but they are all relevant factors.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/1 ... red-admit/
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Vadim Boyko, a Russian Colonel who was heavily involved with the mobilisation has committed suicide, according to Russian sources.
He shot himself in the chest in his office......
...five times!
Presumably he thought stopping drinking tea and having an office on the ground floor would be enough!
He shot himself in the chest in his office......
...five times!
Presumably he thought stopping drinking tea and having an office on the ground floor would be enough!