Millions of us might be **** if we ignore the Russian-Ukraine war

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Re: Millions of us might be **** if we ignore the Russian-Ukraine war

#4381 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 29, 2023 2:37 pm

Russian propaganda has now reached the farcical level of having adjacent articles say that F-16s both won't be a game changer and yet are an unacceptable level of escalation.
Judging from the levels of internet hits on their proxy media, and lack of downvotes to obvious Russian troll accounts, no one is even bothering to read their drivel any more.
Well, almost no one ;)))

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#4382 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 29, 2023 3:10 pm

One of the problems with discounting Russia's 'boy who cried wolf' approach to escalation is that it is not possible to recognise if there comes a point where they really do mean it.
They only have themselves to blame for this, of course, but it does present a problem.
Was the use of Iskandrs supposed to signal that their use with nukes on top is being considered?

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#4383 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 29, 2023 3:34 pm

Difficult to tell from the cloud cover over the last few days whether there were significant levels of strikes across the front lines, as the NASA fire map may not have been detecting them.
Also difficult to be sure now whether fires indicated by the satellites are strikes, as they may be brush fires caused by lightning strikes, due to the dry conditions and presence of serious cumulo-bumblies.

However, fires have just started appearing again, after a few days absence, on the Russian-occupied bank of the Dnipro, and up near Kupyansk.

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#4387 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 29, 2023 7:31 pm



Confirmed by Ukrainian official media

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#4388 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 29, 2023 8:21 pm

Kazakhstan's President declines Lukashenko's offer to join the Union State of Russia and Belarus
You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/29/7404326/

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#4389 Post by OneHungLow » Mon May 29, 2023 8:28 pm

There are rumours that Belarus's leader is ill after a meal/meeting with Putin?

The observer of fools in military south and north...

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#4390 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 29, 2023 8:30 pm

Yes.

If he won't do what putin wants, putin will find someone else.

OTOH, it does look like he's got better!
And there may be no one else.

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#4391 Post by Dushan » Mon May 29, 2023 8:36 pm

OneHungLow wrote:
Mon May 29, 2023 8:28 pm
There are rumours that Belarus's leader is ill after a meal/meeting with Putin?

I would suggest he does not lean over a balcony railing if he feels like vomiting. Especially not on the upper floors.
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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#4392 Post by OneHungLow » Mon May 29, 2023 8:42 pm

All potential high flyers soon to be slung low Dushan!
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#4393 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 29, 2023 8:58 pm

And remember that Russian General a few weeks ago who fell to his death from the ground floor ;)))

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#4394 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue May 30, 2023 9:02 am

There was a Ukrainian drone attack on Moscow last night into this morning. Anywhere from 8 to 32 have been claimed by one side or the other. Russia claims zero damage or casualties.
Reports that GPS is being jammed everywhere in the city, so the taxis are getting lost.
One strike ID'ed on a tall residential building in the SW suburbs. Damage is consistent with a small drone that hit the building en route, and didn't explode.

Eyewitness video from Moscow of small drones shows them flying very low indeed. At least one appears to have exploded just outside a residential area. Unknown if there was a military target in the woods it hit.

This thread is tracking the details. Tweeter is ex-USMC and a foreign policy wonk now, so should be accurate.


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#4395 Post by tango15 » Tue May 30, 2023 9:25 am

I see that the Russians have cancelled MAKS, their prestigious equivalent of Farnborough (or Paris if you prefer!). This will be a big blow to them, because like the other two, it was a great opportunity to show what was new in the market, and very much an international event.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ca ... r-AA1bJI2x

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#4396 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue May 30, 2023 10:35 am

I read recently that the Ukraine war has been mostly the Russian armed forces running a fantastic sales campaign for western equipment ;)))

Want your party to go with a bang? Drop a match in the hatch of a T-80!

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#4397 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue May 30, 2023 1:07 pm

Looks like the drone attack, which Ukraine officially denies but says it's "pleased to watch" was in daylight and aimed at Moscow's elite suburbs.
It's probably a message that the elite should be thinking about a new leader.
The nominal targets were probably the dachas of putin and government ministers, which of course are legitimate targets.
Best guess at the moment is that 31-32 were launched, possibly not coincidentally the number of drones that Moscow aimed at Kyiv the same night.
Maybe 8 made it to the Moscow area, of which 5 were claimed shot down and 3 disabled electronically by Russia. So far I've seen one possible explosion, but don't know if it reached its target.

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#4398 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue May 30, 2023 1:09 pm

There's a distillery on fire near Moscow.



Now that is a war crime :D

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#4399 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue May 30, 2023 1:13 pm

Judging from the invective on Telegram, and Prigozhin really going off on one on video, the Moscow drone strike is having the desired effect



Meanwhile, Ukrainian fundraising includes having your own words put on shells for a donation :D


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#4400 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue May 30, 2023 1:28 pm

Can't verify this, but it's the first plot I've seen.
This is definitely elite dacha country.
The plot has been repeated on Ukrainian official media, so there's that.



Prigozhin's rant


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