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UN positions? Russia, North Korea

#1 Post by John Hill » Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:25 pm

I read on another forum .
Russia, which has committed war crimes in Ukraine, took charge of the U.N. Security Council in April. Earlier this month, it was announced Iran, which represses its citizens, will chair the U.N. Human Rights Council 2023 Social Forum. And now Dr. Jong Min Pak of the North Korean Ministry of Public Health will sit on the WHO’s executive board until 2026.

"Kim Jong Un starves his own people. It’s a total farce that North Korea has a leading role at the World Health Organization." Nikki Haley
Now then, as far as I know these positions are not awarded on merit but rather than by the 'law of turns'?

If invading countries, bombing cities, torture, extra judicial executions, stealing children and various other nasty shyte was grounds for exclusion from the UNSC just how many members would there be?

The public health and human right records of the DPRK may not be too flash but if organizations such as the WHO are to have any relevance it, just like the local school PTA, must accommodate the good with the not-so-good. Nikki Haley does not represent a country with a stella health record and their human rights record leaves a lot to be desired too.
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#2 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:43 pm

League of Nations again.
Talking shop, zero action.

"Jaw, jaw" is only better than "war, war" if one stops the other.

Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam should exclude all its signatories from the UN.

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#4 Post by OneHungLow » Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:22 pm

The Russians respect nothing but brutality and power.

They are an extremely odd people! So talented and often erudite, but also so wrong in many ways.

Putin like so many of them is just a Slavic gangster, I pray that I live to see the day he dies, preferably with his severed appendage in his mouth.

It is hard to be rational with irrational regimes I guess.

John Hill, where are you, speak to us about the North Koreans!

I am not being rude to John, I suspect he knows more than most of us about that turbulent part of the world, despite the fact that I once, shame on me, thought that he might just be playing a phonic "One Young John Hill" joke on us all! ;)))
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#6 Post by John Hill » Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:04 pm

OneHungLow wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:22 pm

John Hill, where are you, speak to us about the North Koreans!

I am not being rude to John, I suspect he knows more than most of us about that turbulent part of the world, despite the fact that I once, shame on me, thought that he might just be playing a phonic "One Young John Hill" joke on us all! ;)))

Here I am, what do you need to know?
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#7 Post by OneHungLow » Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:13 pm

John Hill wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:04 pm
OneHungLow wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:22 pm

John Hill, where are you, speak to us about the North Koreans!

I am not being rude to John, I suspect he knows more than most of us about that turbulent part of the world, despite the fact that I once, shame on me, thought that he might just be playing a phonic "One Young John Hill" joke on us all! ;)))

Here I am, what do you need to know?
Say, what your will SIr. At least one of us is listening and prepared to contemplate another narrative.
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#8 Post by John Hill » Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:25 pm

OneHungLow wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:13 pm
Say, what your will SIr.
Indeed, Kim Jong Un's grandfather was a young man when North Korea was gifted to Stalin which was the opening chapter in this 77+ years of tragedy.

This fellow, and his father, were born into the miserable environment which they have both failed to change so just what should he do?
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#9 Post by OneHungLow » Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:59 pm

John Hill wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:25 pm
OneHungLow wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:13 pm
Say, what your will SIr.
Indeed, Kim Jong Un's grandfather was a young man when North Korea was gifted to Stalin which was the opening chapter in this 77+ years of tragedy.

This fellow, and his father, were born into the miserable environment which they have both failed to change so just what should he do?
Ah, the story of many a family in need. I heed! To do what indeed?
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#10 Post by John Hill » Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:04 pm

I see very few opinions as to what he should do. :-s
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#11 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:36 am


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#12 Post by John Hill » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:25 am

Fox3wmb, is your country a member of the UN? If so why do you not strive to make the UN work? Don't you think the members bear the responsibility for the functioning of the UN?
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#13 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:14 am

Yes; Not fixable; Yes.

Neither is my country's government fixable, in my opinion.
Have I tried to fix it, and the professions that I quit? Yes.
And from my attempts, and watching the attempts of those more capable than myself, I worked out why I don't think they are fixable.
Quite what happens next, I don't know.
I continue to fix what I can for my relatives, friends and neighbours.

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#14 Post by John Hill » Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:29 pm

The UN is an organization of member countries and I can see why one might not like that especially if they subscribe to the idea of a one world government centred on Washington, Beijing, Moscow (maybe not now) or London (too late for that I think).

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