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Re: A grave mistake

#501 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:35 pm

The Israeli strike was reportedly on the Flap Lid B radar for the S-300 battery at Isfahan. The airfield is the usual dual use, civvy on the south side, military on the north.

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Flap Lid is in the centre of the pic on the middle ramp.

The radar was here:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/32%C2 ... ?entry=ttu

The Natanz nuclear reprocessing facility is 105 km north of here
Iran has 4 S-300PMU2 systems.
It may well be that the Isfahan system is the one tasked with guarding the Natanz nuclear site. It has the range to do so.
I am checking.....

Update: Yup, this is the one guarding Natanz. Rest are at 3 of the following sites
https://auroraintel.net/middle-east/ira ... -locations

So, that's the message from the Israelis to the Iranians. We can hit your nuclear site SAM site without you knowing anything about it till it goes bang.
Which means we can hit your nuke sites without you knowing anything about it till they go bang.
And we got this message across despite Biden telling us we couldn't hit a nuke site.

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Re: A grave mistake

#502 Post by Pinky the pilot » Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:24 am

The munitions factories in NATO countries are going to be busy from next week! (I heard from someone who works in one of these places that they have been working flat out until recently, then it all went a bit quiet).
For the last few years it has been almost impossible to obtain Pistol powders from ADI (Australian Defence Industries; Owned by Thales; A French company) here in Australia as they have almost stopped producing the stuff. Rifle powders are available but nowhere near the amounts once available.

However, I have heard unconfirmed reports that the ADI plant had been running three 8 hour shifts, seven days per week for quite some time now!
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Re: A grave mistake

#503 Post by Woody » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:23 pm

The Iranair A330 to Theran was back in LHR this afternoon, on a stand next to an American Airlines aircraft :D
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Re: A grave mistake

#504 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:51 pm

and the Lion will lay down with the Lamb...
...and the Lamb lies down on Broadway...
It will all go quiet until Israel has taken delivery of the latest batch of promised US goodies.

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Re: A grave mistake

#505 Post by EA01 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:37 am

How, at a 'Sandstone University', the University of Sydney we have parents having their 8 to 10 year children call for 'Intifada'over loud speakers....how charming of the little dears....when these kids detonate suicide belts at a local farmers market in a few years time, it'll be someones elses fault no doubt. But in reality, nothing is heard from those who are supposed to be our 'Leaders'

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Re: A grave mistake

#506 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:20 pm

Ask them when they are flying out to Palestine to start resisting.
Otherwise, Intifada is just a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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Re: A grave mistake

#507 Post by Dushan » Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:17 pm

And university students here shouting "from the river to the sea", when asked to name the river and the sea, had no clue.
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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Re: A grave mistake

#508 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:25 pm

Can't say I've ever met a shouty student who had a clue about anything.
I've been part of 2 student actions. There were no meetings, speeches, rallies, protests, or shouting; just action. Both were successful.

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Re: A grave mistake

#509 Post by 1DC » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:36 pm

A few years ago I asked a student nephew why he was wearing a keffiyeh and he had no idea what I was talking about, when I explained it was the A rab scarf he had wrapped around his neck he said he wore it to be "in" and the girls liked it. Unfortunately he is no longer with us and doesn't have any opinions any more. rip

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Re: A grave mistake

#510 Post by Pinky the pilot » Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:23 am

Fliegs; Like the little darlin's arrested recently for allegedly preparing for a terrorist attack somewhere. Apparently stating in messages to each other that they wanted to die for their cause!

I promptly recalled an occasion quite some years ago where an American Military Officer stated that he saw it as his duty to assist any of those types to achieve their goal; ie...to die! :-?
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Re: A grave mistake

#511 Post by probes » Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:13 am

As mentioned before - some things are not comprehensible.

There was an article (opinion, CNN), comparing the situation in Israel/Gaza and Ukraine. With the general conclusion - victory is not possible, let us settle with peace. Or, rather, 'let them'. Contemplating on the effect of US arms that might be used for war crimes in Gaza, and, God forbid, on ruz territory (which might upset putin).
Opinion: Biden needs to get real with Ukraine and Israel
Dunno. Not sure it adds up - if Israel stops war, it will stop for a while?; if Ukraine stops war, they stop existing as a nation.

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#512 Post by PHXPhlyer » Wed May 01, 2024 4:05 pm

CNN gets a rare look at the Iranian missiles and drones that hit Israel

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/01/middleea ... index.html

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“You have to ask the Israelis,” Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Brigadier General Ali Belali says with a smirk when asked how many ballistic missiles the Islamic Republic fired towards Israel in its April 14 strike.

But he’s more than happy to show the missiles and drones Iran used in its first ever attack against Israel launched directly from Iranian soil.

“It was a punitive measure,” Belali says, as he uses a laser pointer to indicate the missiles deployed, towering above him in the exhibit.

Two weeks after the Middle East came to the brink of an all-out war, with Iran firing hundreds of projectiles toward Israel in retaliation for a suspected Israeli airstrike on an Iranian embassy compound in Damascus, Tehran is keen to show the world that it is capable of fighting a wider conflict should it be faced with one.

On April 19, Israel responded with a suspected attack inside Iran’s borders. Both the Iranian and Israeli actions resulted in minimal damage and appeared by both sides to be aimed at restoring deterrence. That situation de-escalated, but the threat of war continues to loom large over the region as Israel’s offensive in Gaza grinds on.

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CNN was given rare access to an Iranian Revolutionary Guards exhibit that showcases Tehran’s air and space capabilities, including the types of weapons that were used against Israel last month. American media had never been allowed inside until now.

At the permanent exhibit of the Revolutionary Guard Aerospace Forces in western Tehran, dozens of long- and medium-range ballistic missiles stand tall along with cruise missiles and drones. The exhibit is meant to show the development and progress of Iran’s drone and missile program.

“Today, our drones and missiles have become an important factor of strength and the execution of power in the world,” Belali, himself a former missile commander during the eight-year Iran-Iraq war that ended in 1988, tells CNN. He says Iran’s massive drone and missile barrage against Israel was a major success.

Iran’s attack on Israel included drones, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. The night sky over Israeli cities lit up as the country’s air defenses worked to intercept the projectiles. Meanwhile, the air forces of Israel, the US, the UK, France and Jordan were busy in the skies, also trying to take down as many Iranian drones and missiles as possible.

“NATO, The United States and Arab countries of the region wanted to create barriers for our drones, missiles and cruise missiles, but they failed,” Belali says. “The world was not able to stop us.”

The Israeli military said that “99%” of projectiles fired by Iran were intercepted by Israel and its partners, with only “a small number” of ballistic missiles reaching the country.

The Iranians claim they managed to hit two locations inside Israel, including the Nevatim airbase in the Negev desert. Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesperson Daniel Hagari said that ballistic missiles that reached Israel fell on the airbase and caused only light structural damage.

“Accurate, (to) less than five meters,” Brigadier General Ali Belali claims, standing in front of two of the ballistic missiles he says were involved in the strikes against Israel, the Ghadr and the Emad. The missiles have a range of more than 1,000 miles and can carry warheads between 450 and 500 kilograms (1,102 lbs), he says. Another missile, called Kheybar, which he says was also used, carries a warhead of about 320 kilograms, the general adds.

Region’s largest ballistic missile force
Iran’s ballistic missiles have long been a cause for concern for the US and its allies in the Middle East, who have called for curbs on the missile program to be part of any deal that Washington strikes with Tehran.

The US says Iran has the largest ballistic missile force in the Middle East and considers its missile arsenal as one of its “primary tools of coercion and force projection.”

Iran has in the past insisted that its missile program is solely for defensive purposes.

In recent years, and until its attack on Israel, Iran had carried out at least five major cross-border ballistic missile strikes in the region, John Krzyzaniak, a research associate at the Wisconsin Project on Nuclear Arms Control in Washington, DC, told CNN earlier. Those include two attacks on ISIS in Syria, and three in Iraq claiming to have targeted US forces, Kurdish militants and Israeli intelligence.

Also on display at the Tehran exhibit is what Iran says is an American RQ-170 Sentinel drone, made by Lockheed Martin, that it claims to have downed in 2011. US officials told CNN that year that the drone was part of a CIA reconnaissance mission that involved both the intelligence community and military personnel stationed in Afghanistan. Three years later, Iran said it had managed to copy the drone.

Belali says Iran’s missile development is key to the Islamic Republic’s defense strategy. “In our defense capabilities we don’t rely on anyone. We have had good progress in this field and we will progress more. There are achievements that have not yet been talked about.”

Drones are equally as important for Iran’s Revolutionary Guards. The exhibit shows various stages of their drone development, starting from small wooden UAVs used in the Iran-Iraq war, all the way to models the Iranians claim have stealth capabilities.

One the most prominent is the Shahed 136, a cheap “fire and forget” drone, meaning a flight path is programmed, the UAV is launched, and it then independently flies towards the target area.

While the Iranians acknowledge using dozens of Shahed 136 drones to target Israel, both the US and Ukraine also accuse Tehran of giving hundreds to Russia, with Moscow using them to hit Ukrainian cities and energy infrastructure. The Iranians have consistently denied those claims.

The Shaheds fly low and slow and usually attack in swarms, the general says, standing in front of an unmarked truck that serves as a secretive launching platform.

“Everything is preprogrammed. The flight route is chosen according (to) the enemy’s capabilities and blind spots of radars and all the elements that can help us reach the target.”

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Re: A grave mistake

#513 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu May 02, 2024 3:02 pm

Red Sea and Suez canal still being avoided by all but traffic from some muslim nations.
Traffic thru Suez is down by 55% in numbers of ships, and 67% in terms of volume.
Operation Prosperity Guardian is a complete and expensive failure.
https://portwatch.imf.org/pages/c57c79b ... 6ea9c97ef0

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Re: A grave mistake

#514 Post by Pinky the pilot » Fri May 03, 2024 3:52 am

The thought has crossed my mind on occasion that maybe it is high time that Merchant Shipping were armed in similar ways to some Merchant Ships during WW11.

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Re: A grave mistake

#515 Post by Rwy in Sight » Fri May 03, 2024 5:40 am

There used to be an armed guard service. A friend was enquiring about joining it so he explained that any guard defending a commercial vessel using the means at his disposal leading to an untoward consequences for the attackers he could face dire consequences.He is fairly reliable. Having only a cup of coffee I risk to say the attack is done by a private person /team and another private person can't use abusive violence to defend the vessel.

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Re: A grave mistake

#516 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri May 03, 2024 11:54 am

The basic problem is that the World's ocean-going navies aren't doing anything about piracy, mainly because the only viable method is the same as it ever was, sink the pirates with gunfire. And governments are afraid of the media reaction.

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