ET crash ADD NBO

Message
Author
Boac
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5772
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:12 pm
Location: Here

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#561 Post by Boac » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:17 pm

A sharp left turn with 100nm to go and they appear to have decided they can make Amsterdam. Hopefully no 'Red Lights' before the night stop. :-bd

Boac
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5772
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:12 pm
Location: Here

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#562 Post by Boac » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:27 pm

Not quite sure why they had to meander like a drunken snail across France.
Noname.jpg
Maybe if they have a relief crew (no, not the Slasher sort... :)) ) slumbering gently in the back they could be home tonight. Otherwise one easy if boring hop 'morra.

Boac
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5772
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:12 pm
Location: Here

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#563 Post by Boac » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:03 pm

Well, no Dam Square tonight, poor folk. On they go.

User avatar
Woody
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 4843
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:33 pm
Location: Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand
Age: 55

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#564 Post by Woody » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:48 pm

Currently descending through fl13, North of CPH, doesn’t look like Stockholm.
Can the last person to leave,please feed the cat.

User avatar
Woody
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 4843
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:33 pm
Location: Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand
Age: 55

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#565 Post by Woody » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:59 pm

Landed in CPH.
Can the last person to leave,please feed the cat.

User avatar
Fox3WheresMyBanana
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 6898
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:51 pm
Location: Great White North
Gender:
Age: 57

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#566 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:40 am

First cancelled MAX order: 30 A320neos instead for Flyadeal (Saudi subsidiary)
Scheduling commitments cited.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saud ... SKCN1U20AC

Boac
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5772
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:12 pm
Location: Here

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#567 Post by Boac » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:16 am

I have had great difficulty in establishing what the latest problem with the Max and its autopilot is. It is quoted as 'sometimes does not disengage' but when where and how I cannot find. I know colleagues who have had 'normal' a/p disengagement on the Classic and NG but whether this is some new feature involving MCAS or not I know not.

Too many dark holes (unfortunately two of them 'smoking'). Does anyone have more information?

Boac
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5772
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:12 pm
Location: Here

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#568 Post by Boac » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:04 am

A touching video of a LionAir Captain's last flight (I suggest you pick it up about 1:30). The subtitle should probably read:
"Thank God the Max didn't kill me"

https://onemileatatime.com/lion-air-cap ... st-flight/

Boac
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5772
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:12 pm
Location: Here

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#569 Post by Boac » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:38 am

Hints that 'something' may be happening - both RyanAir and Norwegian are dropping hints about 'October' for a return to service.

User avatar
Slasher
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 9641
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:41 am
Location: In between 'em!
Gender:
Age: 100

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#570 Post by Slasher » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:09 am

Boac wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:04 am
The subtitle should probably read: "Thank God the Max didn't kill me"

https://onemileatatime.com/lion-air-cap ... st-flight/
I too felt like kissing the ground after some particularly nasty flights I can tell you! 😱

As an aside my last flight before retiring was a quiet affair after return to the Gulf. Saluting and handshaking - akin to that sub captain (Gene Hackman) when he left the Alabama towards the end of Crimson Tide (but without the cigar and the peeing Jack Russell).

Pissup was later. 🍻
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24m-V2f9-sY

User avatar
ian16th
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5993
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:35 am
Location: KZN South Coast with the bananas
Gender:
Age: 82

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#571 Post by ian16th » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:14 am

Slasher wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:09 am
I too felt like kissing the ground after some particularly nasty flights I can tell you! 😱
Which reminds one of the old joke;

Why does the Pope always kiss the ground when he arrives in a foreign country?

Have you never flown with Alitalia?
Wine improves with age
I improve with wine :YMPARTY:

Boac
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5772
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:12 pm
Location: Here

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#572 Post by Boac » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:37 pm

From O'Leary's mouth:
“Boeing are telling us at the moment they expect to be back flying by the end of September,” O’Leary said in an interview

User avatar
Undried Plum
Capt
Capt
Posts: 1633
Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:45 pm
Location: 56°N 4°W

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#573 Post by Undried Plum » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:45 pm

And flying the 737 MACS over Chinese airspace by the end of ....?

User avatar
Fox3WheresMyBanana
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 6898
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:51 pm
Location: Great White North
Gender:
Age: 57

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#574 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:55 pm

If Boeing were realistically expecting to not have the MAX flying again until next year at the earliest, what do you think their PR would be telling people?

User avatar
OFSO
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 7815
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:39 pm
Location: The Peoples Republic of Islington
Gender:
Age: 75

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#575 Post by OFSO » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:00 pm

Remove MACS.
Recertify 737MAX.
Teach crew to recognise stall following rapid augmentation of power settings and deal with it appropriately (training).
Problem solved.

Boac
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 5772
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:12 pm
Location: Here

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#576 Post by Boac » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:03 pm

OFSO - it has very little to do with "recognise stall following rapid augmentation of power settings" and 'remove MCAS' = un-certifiable under current rules.

way to go!

User avatar
Fox3WheresMyBanana
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 6898
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:51 pm
Location: Great White North
Gender:
Age: 57

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#577 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:35 pm

Eric Lindblad, the Boeing 737 program chief, has just retired after less than a year in the job. Boeing are saying it's all perfectly normal, and that he "mentioned retiring last year", to quote the Boeing Commercial VP.
Interesting that they should appoint a guy to the most high profile and troubled position in the company who was only going to be there for less than a year.

G-CPTN
Capt
Capt
Posts: 1335
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:22 pm
Location: Tynedale

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#578 Post by G-CPTN » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:23 am


User avatar
Fox3WheresMyBanana
Chief Pilot
Chief Pilot
Posts: 6898
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:51 pm
Location: Great White North
Gender:
Age: 57

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#579 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:33 am

Interesting that Boeing can't even be bothered to come up with a new excuse, seeing as how the previous guy to Lindblad also wished to retire suddenly.

Scott: “Earlier this year Scott came to me expressing his desire to retire and spend more time with his family", McAllister said in the memo
Eric: "He shared with me his desire to retire last year", McAllister said in the memo

User avatar
Undried Plum
Capt
Capt
Posts: 1633
Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:45 pm
Location: 56°N 4°W

Re: ET crash ADD NBO

#580 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:10 am

To be fair to those guys: being responsible for the production of a best-selling aircraft, which probably doesn't qualify for a Type Certificate, must surely be the shittest job in the world.

Post Reply