Piper Malibu missing north of Alderney!

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Re: Piper Malibu missing north of Alderney!

#101 Post by G-CPTN » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:45 pm

It appears that the section located is the rear fuselage rather than the cockpit section.
Ergo, the body is likely to be that of the passenger rather than that of the pilot.

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#102 Post by Undried Plum » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:54 pm

If that picture shows the fuselage broken off at the aft end of the main door, then most of the aeroplane is elsewhere.

I don't think that's the case or they would have looked for and found the for'ard bit, ie the wings, cockpit, engine, etc.

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#103 Post by k3k3 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:48 pm

Sky said they only showed that part of the aircraft so as not to show the human remains, so I assume there is more of the aircraft there, just no published photos yet.



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#106 Post by Boac » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:46 am

Will there be money back on the returns?

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Re: Piper Malibu missing north of Alderney!

#107 Post by Ex-Ascot » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:14 am

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It appears that the section located is the rear fuselage rather than the cockpit section.
Ergo, the body is likely to be that of the passenger rather than that of the pilot.
One pax in small aircraft I am sure he would be RHS. Just wondering if young fit kicker of leather may have got out. If so obviously floating in the ogin and will eventually drift ashore.
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Re: Piper Malibu missing north of Alderney!

#108 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:44 pm

Somewhat West of Alderney but the majority of the casualties from my father in laws ships came ashore at St Breuic, a few on Jersey and a handful on Guernsey. A body could come ashore anywhere

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Re: Piper Malibu missing north of Alderney!

#109 Post by Ex-Ascot » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:08 pm

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Somewhat West of Alderney but the majority of the casualties from my father in laws ships came ashore at St Breuic, a few on Jersey and a handful on Guernsey. A body could come ashore anywhere
Yep the Channel is difficult. Once had a guy take himself for a long swim (suicide) on Amorgos just where we used to rent a house on the coast. We had a boat there and knew the currents. The police came to see us mainly about when we had last seen him but we told them where they would find him in a couple of days. We were smack on.
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#110 Post by ExSp33db1rd » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:54 pm

Occasionally asked to do a Coastguard aerial search for a body, and after the first day of expensive searching the Powers What Be suggest standing down for three or four days as the body will almost certainly re-appear near the point of initial drowning. i.e the tides follow a regular pattern, so the body initially sinks and the tides take it out and back unseen, then the production of decomposing gasses within the corpse brings it back to the surface. Seems to work sometimes.

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#111 Post by Stoneboat » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:00 pm

One pax in small aircraft I am sure he would be RHS. Just wondering if young fit kicker of leather may have got out.
Ex-A, I can't remember if that type has a door on the rhs. If it did, you could very well be right.

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#112 Post by k3k3 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:45 pm

The body recovered from the aircraft has been formally identified as Sala, the footballer.

Reported on BBC Spotlight.

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#113 Post by Capetonian » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:52 pm

This was in the DT early this morning :
It is not yet known whether it is the pilot or the footballer, whose body has been found, but this morning it was brought to Portland Port, Dorset, as this is the nearest part of the British mainland to where the plane was located.
An example of the importance of correct punctuation as the extra comma changes the meaning. It should have read :
It is not yet known whether it is the pilot or the footballer whose body has been found, but this morning it was brought to Portland Port, Dorset, as this is the nearest part of the British mainland to where the plane was located.

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#114 Post by Undried Plum » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:09 am

The authorities have declared that the body found is that of the footballer, not the plumber.

The AAIB has also said that no more field investigation of the wreckage will be conducted.

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#115 Post by Ex-Ascot » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:01 am

Stoneboat wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:00 pm
One pax in small aircraft I am sure he would be RHS. Just wondering if young fit kicker of leather may have got out.
Ex-A, I can't remember if that type has a door on the rhs. If it did, you could very well be right.
I think you have it SB. See below. Thus the plumber went swimming. Hope he didn't have a few monkey wrenches in his pockets otherwise he will never surface to face the music - George Frideric Handel's Water Music one would presume. Or perhaps Ralph Vaughan Williams' Sea Symphony.
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#116 Post by AtomKraft » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:02 am

Ex Ascot.
Is that really necessary?

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#117 Post by OFSO » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:03 am

No, it isn't. Even though we are talking about a pilot whose approach to flying seems to have been less than careful and which has cost the life of another man.

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#118 Post by Ex-Ascot » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:24 am

AtomKraft wrote:
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Ex Ascot.
Is that really necessary?
Yes, as a retired professional pilot I feel that anyone who kills by incompetence deserves everything they get.
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#119 Post by AtomKraft » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:13 pm

Really?
What about the Chinook guys for example?

Anyway, you can say what you like, but I think it's uncalled for.

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Re: Piper Malibu missing north of Alderney!

#120 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:33 am

AtomKraft wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:13 pm
Really?
What about the Chinook guys for example?

Anyway, you can say what you like, but I think it's uncalled for.
Where have you been since 2011?

I request that you retract that implied slur on Royal Air Force pilots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Scot ... nook_crash

This guy was flying an unsuitable aircraft in icing, unqualified to fly IMC, unqualified night flying and not licenced for charter. So I stick by my statement. I will say ill of the dead because he killed someone. If he had survived he would have faced similar charges to the Barton pilot.
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