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Yes - the Dragon mission is going well.

Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:22 am

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I wonder what Helga is doing tonight? I hear from the Ausschuss zur Verhütung von Unfällen in der Luftfahrt that she gives good Diktat!

Hat, coat, etc.

Caco

Dazu kann ich nur eins sagen, Weißwurstäquator!

Helga geht zu meine Basilica in Spanien. Kommt aus Östrich, fahrt eine Audi mit Kennzeichen "HELGA". Seht aus wie Helga aus "Allo Allo".

"Repeat, please!"

The jumpseater was a captain from MESA. He was due to start with United this week. His seat at indoc was left vacant. Also, United flew hi widow back to Colombia first class along with what would have been his United wings and epaulettes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ca ... -3-n979686

They know what happened but not why yet. CVR is bad.

Slasher wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:11 am

I got interested in prang investigations after I learnt to fly so I could learn from others screwups and not end up as an investigation myself.

BTW after looking at the evidence again I tend to agree with Ex-A's theory of sudden cargo load shift.

Dunno, mate, i used to work for a cargo mob, our official policy was all locks down, our unofficial policy was 1 lock up was acceptable... Providing all others was down and locked. The locks could be down but not locked... Physically... Just sayin....


Sounds like wx or cargo shift... but I cant see it being either one... !ocks down, wx avoided...

I spent ***** tones of time in freighters.. Locks just dont lift up... But straps do break ... Something happened quick....

Yes mate. When I was on the DC9-30 we had one which was a QC. We sometimes had only one lock but the policy was that pallet had to have 2 others front and back as an additional measure.

Slasher wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:05 pm

Yes mate. When I was on the DC9-30 we had one which was a QC. We sometimes had only one lock but the policy was that pallet had to have 2 others front and back as an additional measure.

DC9?? Ya call sign wouldnt fossil, would it??? ;)

Nah mate...that was waaay back when I was a sexually-frothing young buck DC9 F/O with TAA in the early '80s.

I liked the freighter version - aircraft was loaded but the time you got there, load and trim sheet sitting on the radio panel awaiting signature, dep was always early, subsequent arrival early etc, and we usually arrived a full hour early back at base.

Plus the pallets never complained about sev turb or if one plants it on the runway a bit firm. They don't bitch neither if the departure was a few mins late.

Slasher wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:53 am

Nah mate...that was waaay back when I was a sexually-frothing young buck DC9 F/O with TAA in the early '80s.

I liked the freighter version - aircraft was loaded but the time you got there, load and trim sheet sitting on the radio panel awaiting signature, dep was always early, subsequent arrival early etc, and we usually arrived a full hour early back at base.

Plus the pallets never complained about sev turb or if one plants it on the runway a bit firm. They don't bitch neither if the departure was a few mins late.

See your point Capt but no spare 1st class grub for the flight deck and no girlies to serve it. If I recall correctly on the few occasions I did freighting, mainly Gulf War they gave us one girlie to serve the flight deck and ALM. Crew meals of course, which were pretty awful. Airline crew meals were also crap. As we were charter, the pax meals were no better. The best grub was Royal and VIP, all BA Concorde at first then BA 1st class, pax and flight deck. We got to take any spare grub home. Not many Border Collies dined on smoked salmon and sirloin steak.

Thanks Reddo. Good to know some companies quietly get on with doing the decent thing.

Ex-Ascot wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:16 pm

See your point Capt but no spare 1st class grub for the flight deck and no girlies to serve it.

True on the DC9 sah with just the 2 of us on board. As the cojock I was usually sent back to heat up the grub and make the coffee. But when I went to the 727 there were 2 QC models and the F/E played trolley dolly.

It was pot luck if the crew meals were fit for human consumption or not, so on the -9 I picked the most edible for meself. On the Boeing I ended up most times with the crap.

And true about the girlies. Somehow food and drink tastes better when served with a pervading atmosphere of perfume.

Slasher:

Somehow food and drink tastes better when served with a pervading atmosphere of perfume.

No, I actually I hated it when one of the woofters came onto the flight deck.

Ex-Ascot wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:07 am

Slasher:

Somehow food and drink tastes better when served with a pervading atmosphere of perfume.

No, I actually I hated it when one of the woofters came onto the flight deck.

I was of course referring to the hosties sah. I never ever accepted meals served by sh!t shunters because I didn't know (nor wanted to know) where their hands and fingers had been previously.

This is the video that purports to show the actual crash.



Caco

A chilling update from the NTSB:

"Shortly after, when the airplane’s indicated airspeed was steady about 230 knots, the engines increased to maximum thrust, and the airplane pitch increased to about 4° nose up. The airplane then pitched nose down over the next 18 seconds to about 49° in response to nose-down elevator deflection."

Why, when reading that, did I think the word 'suicide'?