Sukhoi Superjet in flames in Sheremetyevo

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Sukhoi Superjet in flames in Sheremetyevo

#1 Post by probes » Sun May 05, 2019 6:07 pm

https://news.sky.com/video/aeroflot-pla ... t-11712584

"Based on current information, one person has died and four people need medical attention" after the plane erupted in flames as it tried to land at Sheremetyevo airport shortly after takeoff, the TASS agency quoted Russian investigators as saying.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/wo ... g-11505804

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#2 Post by G-CPTN » Sun May 05, 2019 7:35 pm


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#3 Post by Capetonian » Sun May 05, 2019 9:29 pm

Looking at footage, it's a miracle that anyone got out.

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#4 Post by boing » Mon May 06, 2019 1:51 am

Looks like a very controlled and rapid evacuation through 1R. Well done. In the US they would still be getting their bags from the overhead or taking cell-phone footage.

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#5 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon May 06, 2019 6:51 am

The BBC link was 41 dead, 5 in hospital, from 73 + 5 crew onboard. One FA died.

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#6 Post by probes » Mon May 06, 2019 10:10 am

Passenger video from inside - well, how it must have felt to be there. :(

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... 340073f97a

Some say evacuation took 55 sec (of the 'nomal' 90), but passengers 'saving' their hand luggage are blamed for the ones who died in the tail section.

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#7 Post by Stoneboat » Mon May 06, 2019 12:57 pm

Well done. In the US they would still be getting their bags from the overhead or taking cell-phone footage.
Some say evacuation took 55 sec (of the 'nomal' 90), but passengers 'saving' their hand luggage are blamed for the ones who died in the tail section.
The Americans were obviously sitting in the tail section.

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#8 Post by Undried Plum » Mon May 06, 2019 1:18 pm

Meeja now saying that the fire was caused by a lightning strike.

Sounds rather improbable.

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#9 Post by k3k3 » Mon May 06, 2019 1:21 pm

Watching the evacuation through 1R, things seemed to be going well until there was a gap of several seconds with no-one coming down the slide, followed by someone holding a suitcase.

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#10 Post by Capetonian » Mon May 06, 2019 1:29 pm

Meeja now saying that the fire was caused by a lightning strike.
Sounds rather improbable.
Sounds extremely improbably, particularly as the a/c was only a year old, so wiring, insulation, fuel lines, etc unlikely to have been in poor condition, unless they'd had French 'workers' on it, which is unlikely.
With the 'holes in the cheese' theory though, it's possible.

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#11 Post by ian16th » Mon May 06, 2019 1:32 pm

k3k3 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:21 pm
Watching the evacuation through 1R, things seemed to be going well until there was a gap of several seconds with no-one coming down the slide, followed by someone holding a suitcase.
I wonder if that suitcase carrying person can be charged with Manslaughter, or its Russian equivalent?
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#12 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon May 06, 2019 2:43 pm

This fire was an engine fire. You do not get that from a lightning strike.

When are they going to put automatic locks on overhead lockers to stop folk opening them from say top of decent before on stand?
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#13 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 06, 2019 2:48 pm

Anyone goes for a suitcase when escaping a flight I'm on is going to be persuaded of the error of their ways in very short order. The John Prescott approach.

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#14 Post by llondel » Mon May 06, 2019 2:55 pm

Change to the safety briefing, perhaps?

"In the event of an emergency evacuation, those wishing to save their baggage should remain seated until all those who wish to save themselves have left the aircraft. Please note that this latter category includes the crew."

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#15 Post by Boac » Mon May 06, 2019 4:52 pm

I do not think there was an in-flight fire. Watch the RT video of the landing
It looks as if the fire started when the a/c hit after a humungeous bounce on landing which damaged the engines or fuel tanks. I assume some other problem caused the early return.

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#16 Post by Capetonian » Mon May 06, 2019 5:13 pm

It has been suggested that in the event of an emergency requiring evacuation the overhead bins should be locked. Not a good idea, first of all it's something else for the crew to deal with, and knowing the stupidity of the human species, it would make things worse as some idiots would try to force or break the bins open.

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#17 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon May 06, 2019 5:49 pm

Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:48 pm
Anyone goes for a suitcase when escaping a flight I'm on is going to be persuaded of the error of their ways in very short order. The John Prescott approach.
Which is a very good reason to dress properly, put wallet, passport etc in a pocket and not overhead locker. I have seen one, and only one, pair of trousers with shin pockets. Ideal for a nutty bar and a paperback.

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#18 Post by boing » Mon May 06, 2019 7:24 pm

Photographer jacket. Plenty of pockets of all sizes inside and outside. Not much heat load and, if you do take it off, it tucks alongside the seat so that you can grab it and run.

Travelling in the US mine holds wallet, cash in another pocket, airline tickets, cell-phone, micro-music player, noise cancelling earphones etc. Only problem is remembering which pocket in which you put which item cos' I'm disorganised as soon as I leave the house. :) Oh, and remembering to remove the left-over ammo. from the last range trip.

And I'm with Fox, if anybody reaches for the overhead and exposes his torso he's going down.

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#19 Post by ian16th » Mon May 06, 2019 7:29 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 5:49 pm
Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:48 pm
Anyone goes for a suitcase when escaping a flight I'm on is going to be persuaded of the error of their ways in very short order. The John Prescott approach.
Which is a very good reason to dress properly, put wallet, passport etc in a pocket and not overhead locker. I have seen one, and only one, pair of trousers with shin pockets. Ideal for a nutty bar and a paperback.
When I was a frequent traveller, I had large, zipped pockets added to the inside of a light windcheater.
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#20 Post by ExSp33db1rd » Tue May 07, 2019 4:25 am

Sorry, posted this before I had seen boac post #15 herein, same video.
This fire was an engine fire. You do not get that from a lightning strike.
https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/621 ... es-13.html

Go to post No. 253 and view the video, there doesn't appear to be an engine fire prior to the heavy touchdown ,but then what do I know, I wasn't there.

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