More "plunging" aircraft!

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More "plunging" aircraft!

#1 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:56 am

Aircraft experiences pressurization anomaly and the crew expedite a controlled descent to a safe altitude and we get this plunge panic drivel from the press again. Most depressing!

Passengers text loved ones as plane plunges 30,000ft in seven minutes

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#2 Post by Woody » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:16 am

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:56 am
Aircraft experiences pressurization anomaly and the crew expedite a controlled descent to a safe altitude and we get this plunge panic drivel from the press again. Most depressing!

Passengers text loved ones as plane plunges 30,000ft in seven minutes

:-?
Good job American Sky Gods were flying the aircraft :ymdevil:
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#3 Post by Boac » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:23 am

Yes - if it were a different quality of pilot heaven knows what would have happened. Not forgetting, of course, for those readers of the Independent, that we always 'plunge' 30,000, but in a more sedate 20 minutes, every flight.

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#4 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:42 am

They should try it in 30 seconds ;)))

Should stop the texting BS also.

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#5 Post by Boac » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:56 am

Ah - the old 'Tac Dive' - standing on the rudder pedals - great fun unless you are over land........... when the fun wears off at the subsequent bollocking. :-h Never tried it in my 737, though.

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#6 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:47 pm

Plunging 30,000 feet not recommended over Switzerland.

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#7 Post by Slasher » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:51 pm

Or that bit between whatsisplace and Tashkent.

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#8 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:45 pm

Now you mention it; we had parachutes with automatic opening. Ours were set to 5,000m but the pilot's bang seat were 10k. Bit of a hard landing for Biggles.

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#9 Post by 4mastacker » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:22 pm

Were any schools, hospitals, lunatic asylums narrowly avoided?
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#10 Post by Boac » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:22 pm

Yes, all within 100 miles.

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#11 Post by ribrash » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:04 pm

They missed me so thats the lunatic asylum sorted.

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#12 Post by llondel » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:15 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:47 pm
Plunging 30,000 feet not recommended over Switzerland.
Doesn't that depend on your starting altitude? Plunging 30,000ft anywhere in the world if you start at 29,000ft is likely to end badly.

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#13 Post by ian16th » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:30 pm

This is when terms like 'terrain clearance' become important.
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#14 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:33 pm

Llondel, based on most civil aircraft flying below 40k .. . .

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#15 Post by ExSp33db1rd » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:12 pm

This is when terms like 'terrain clearance' become important.
Cat II ( low visibility) into Zurich one night. Just establishing on the ILS we got terrain warning, "Pull up, pull up".

"When in doubt lash out " and on the go around the F/O asked why, as, he said, we were established correctly ? Never heard of a false glide slope ? I replied. I asked ATC if they’d been monitoring out approach, and they admitted that they hadn’t, but had turned us on a bit close and there was a "pimple" nearby that might have triggered our terrain warning. I suggested that if they monitored our next approach, and I also considered us correctly established on the ILS, then I might ignore a subsequent warning. Didn’t happen, but y'canna be tooo carrrreful. ( n,est ce pas ?)

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#16 Post by fin » Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:07 pm

The totally deplorable state of contemporary "journalism" is so pervasive that I am making sincere efforts to break my long standing addiction to "news".

My take-away from this totally average reporting is that if they get so much wrong on a topic I know, aviation, how much crap are the peddling when they speak of Economics, Education, Foreign Affairs etc.

As for the antics of the bottom feeders in Hollywood etc, who cares if they get that right or not.

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#17 Post by Pontius Navigator » Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:20 pm

fin, join the club.

There is an adage for interviewers 'don't ask a question for which you don't know the answer '. Sadly that means the only reason for them asking you a question it to authenticate their opinion.

The corollary is that if they don't know the answer don't ask the question.

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#18 Post by ian16th » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:52 pm

Every time I have read a news report of an event that I have witnessed, the news report is different to my recollection of the event.
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#19 Post by jimtherev » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:13 pm

The secret, of course is to learn not just journalese, but the particular perversion of journalese practiced by the so-called news outlet, then attempt to write one's press statement in that language. Works ok if you're only supplying a small number of 'clients' ... life's too short.
If all else fails, one needs to keep it short, keep it simple, and use short words. Most journos are too busy/lazy/spaced out to manufacture stuff if it's all spelt out for them. Let's put it down to deadlines, eh?

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#20 Post by Woody » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:35 am

On for C16 :-o

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