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‘I want to get off the plane.’ The passengers refusing to fly on Boeing’s 737 Max
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Boeing is paying a fine of $51 million to settle 200 charges of violation of the Arms Export Control Act and the International Traffic in Arms Regulation Laws. Exports to China, Russia, etc.
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The Federal Aviation Administration has flagged more safety issues for two troubled families of Boeing planes, the latest in a series of issues at the embattled aircraft maker.
The issues involve engine anti-ice systems on the 737 Max and larger 787 Dreamliner. While the FAA flagged the issues in a filing in mid-February, it drew greater attention on Friday because of a Seattle Times article.
The safety regulator continues to allow both models of the plane to fly despite the potential problems. Both issues are moving through the FAA’s standard process for developing airworthiness directives — rather than an emergency process — signaling that the agency and plane maker do not believe the issues are serious enough to require the planes to stop flying immediately.
But another safety issue is the last thing that Boeing needs at this moment, two months after a door plug on a 737 Max blew out on an Alaska Air flight, leaving a gaping hole in the side of the jet shortly after take-off. The Max has had a series of problems over the last five years, including two fatal crashes that between them killed 346 people in late 2018 and early 2019, which led to a 20-month grounding of the jet.
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The Federal Aviation Administration has flagged more safety issues for two troubled families of Boeing planes, the latest in a series of issues at the embattled aircraft maker.
The issues involve engine anti-ice systems on the 737 Max and larger 787 Dreamliner. While the FAA flagged the issues in a filing in mid-February, it drew greater attention on Friday because of a Seattle Times article.
The safety regulator continues to allow both models of the plane to fly despite the potential problems. Both issues are moving through the FAA’s standard process for developing airworthiness directives — rather than an emergency process — signaling that the agency and plane maker do not believe the issues are serious enough to require the planes to stop flying immediately.
But another safety issue is the last thing that Boeing needs at this moment, two months after a door plug on a 737 Max blew out on an Alaska Air flight, leaving a gaping hole in the side of the jet shortly after take-off. The Max has had a series of problems over the last five years, including two fatal crashes that between them killed 346 people in late 2018 and early 2019, which led to a 20-month grounding of the jet.
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Passengers sue Boeing, Alaska Airlines for $1 billion over midair door panel blowout
The "preventable incident" endangered scores of lives both on the plane itself and others flying Max 9 aircraft, the suit alleges.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/busine ... rcna141636
Three passengers are suing Boeing and Alaska Airlines for $1 billion in damages in the wake of a door panel blowing out midair on their flight.
The suit, announced Feb. 23, accuses Boeing and Alaska Airlines of negligence for allegedly having ignored warning signs that could have prevented the Jan. 5 incident, which forced the plane pilots to make an emergency landing.
"This experience jeopardized the lives of the 174 passengers and six crew members that were on board," a release announcing the suit states. "For those reasons, the lawsuit seeks substantial punitive damages ... for what was a preventable incident."
The suit is also seeking damages on behalf of other passengers who may have flown on Boeing 737 Max 9 aircraft, which were subsequently grounded by the Federal Aviation Administration following the incident.
The suit is not related to another class-action lawsuit filed in January in the immediate wake of the incident.
Boeing 737 Max 9 planes flown by Alaska and United Airlines have resumed regular service. However, both carriers have indicated that they are reconsidering whether to place additional orders with Boeing for additional Max aircraft, including the successor line, the Max 10.
The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board continue to investigate Boeing over the January blowout incident.
Boeing and Alaska did not immediately respond to an emailed request for comment.
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The "preventable incident" endangered scores of lives both on the plane itself and others flying Max 9 aircraft, the suit alleges.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/busine ... rcna141636
Three passengers are suing Boeing and Alaska Airlines for $1 billion in damages in the wake of a door panel blowing out midair on their flight.
The suit, announced Feb. 23, accuses Boeing and Alaska Airlines of negligence for allegedly having ignored warning signs that could have prevented the Jan. 5 incident, which forced the plane pilots to make an emergency landing.
"This experience jeopardized the lives of the 174 passengers and six crew members that were on board," a release announcing the suit states. "For those reasons, the lawsuit seeks substantial punitive damages ... for what was a preventable incident."
The suit is also seeking damages on behalf of other passengers who may have flown on Boeing 737 Max 9 aircraft, which were subsequently grounded by the Federal Aviation Administration following the incident.
The suit is not related to another class-action lawsuit filed in January in the immediate wake of the incident.
Boeing 737 Max 9 planes flown by Alaska and United Airlines have resumed regular service. However, both carriers have indicated that they are reconsidering whether to place additional orders with Boeing for additional Max aircraft, including the successor line, the Max 10.
The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board continue to investigate Boeing over the January blowout incident.
Boeing and Alaska did not immediately respond to an emailed request for comment.
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John Oliver calls for new leadership of Boeing: ‘Fix the culture that you have destroyed’
Last Week Tonight host looks into recent safety and profit-driven culture issues plaguing major US airplane manufacturer
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... ver-boeing
John Oliver dug into commercial air travel and specifically the troubled recent safety record of Boeing, a few weeks after a door popped off a Boeing 737 Max-9 flown by Alaska Airlines mid-flight.
A few passengers were injured in the incident, and that was luck – if someone had been sitting in the exit row seat without a seatbelt, or if the door had fallen off at a higher altitude, the injuries could have been catastrophic. The plane was also new – it had been delivered by the manufacturer Boeing to Alaska Airlines two months earlier. “That’s too soon for a sneaker to fall apart, let alone a multimillion-dollar aircraft,” the Last Week Tonight host explained.
According to the preliminary investigation, four bolts that were supposed to hold the door in place were missing; Alaska Airlines subsequently found loose bolts on “many” of its Max 9 airplanes.
“It’s beginning to feel like this might be a much broader issue within Boeing,” said Oliver, “because it comes on the heels of a years-long string of alarming incidents”, from fires on board to a pair of devastating crashes that were blamed on Boeing planes. The Federal Aviation Administration recently gave the company 90 days to address safety issues, given reports that employees felt scared to report any concerns.
It’s a concerning turn for a US company that used to be synonymous with safety and craftsmanship. Best known for revolutionizing commercial aviation, Boeing for decades maintained a sterling reputation for excellence.
But in 1996, Boeing merged with McDonnell Douglas, a company known for building military planes with a terrible safety record. “Was merging with the McDonnell Douglas aerospace corporation slash murder emporium the worst decision that Boeing CEO’s worst decision? Probably not,” said Oliver, because the then CEO Philip Condit married his first cousin. “So the last decision I’d ask this guy to make is who it’s a good idea to couple up with.”
A profit-driven culture took over; within a few years, the company introduced a stock buyback program, as priorities shifted from safety and product to stock prices. Oliver outlined how this process affected the development of the 787 Dreamliner in the 2000s, which was given less than half the budget of previous planes, and outsourced production to 50 different suppliers. “So basically, the plan was for Boeing to create the plane the same way someone ‘creates’ a gingerbread house from a kit,” said Oliver, “essentially assembling a bunch of pieces other people made, leading to a finished product that, structurally speaking, was always going to be a **** mess.”
The Dreamliner, released three years late and $25bn over budget, was eventually grounded due to several fires on board within days of each other, the result of defective batteries made by a subcontractor and not audited by Boeing.
The company tried to rebound with the 737 Max model under the slogan “more is less”. At the same time, from 2014 to 2018, the company diverted 92% of operating cash flow to dividends and share buybacks to benefit investors, far exceeding its investment in research and development. And then two catastrophic crashes – the 2018 Lion Air crash, killing 189, and the 2019 Ethiopian Airlines crash, which killed 157 people – highlighted significant safety concerns.
Oliver summarized the issue with Boeing Max’s MCAS system, which altered the plane’s angle and could be compromised by a single sensor that could be knocked off by a bird or a balloon. Even worse, Boeing did not tell pilots about the MCAS system, which would require retraining. “How is information about a system that could crash the plane ‘unnecessary’?” Oliver fumed. “It’s not ‘all Fruit Loops are the same flavor’, or ‘identical twins don’t have the same fingerprints’, or ‘if you give a mirror to a dolphin, they’ll admire their own genitals’. All of that is good information, but unnecessary for a pilot to know. But ‘we put some software on the plane that might try and murder you’ feels important.”
After the Lion Air crash, Boeing promised to have a software fix for MCAS within six weeks. That didn’t happen; instead, the company authorized a record $20bn share buyback program. “So clearly they were concerned about safety – specifically, the safety of their **** stock price,” Oliver exclaimed.
The FAA grounded the 737 Max 3 days after the Ethiopian Airlines crash. During the plane’s two-year grounding, a congressional investigation found damning emails from employees aware of the MCAS issues – “this airplane is designed by clowns, who in turn are supervised by monkeys”, wrote one.
Which prompted Oliver to wonder: “Where the **** are the regulators?” For one, the FAA relied heavily on Boeing employees to vouch for the aircraft’s safety, because it lacked the ability to effectively analyze what Boeing shared. Also, Boeing appointed their own inspectors, employed by the company. “Boeing was paying Boeing employees to regulate Boeing,” said Oliver. “It’s the most incestuous relationship we’ve seen in this story so far, which is saying something because remember, this guy [former CEO Condit] was **** his first cousin.
“At every point along the way, the FAA either delegated responsibility to Boeing, or gave them the benefit of the doubt, which hopefully they will never do again,” Oliver summarized. “Because Boeing, like so many American companies, seems to be coasting on a reputation it built up over decades even though it squanders it quarter by quarter.”
Oliver echoed Boeing whistleblowers in calling for new leadership for the company, despite its public promises for more transparency and accountability. “If you truly are too big to fail,” he concluded, “that should mean that you are big enough to spend the time and resources required to fix the culture that you have destroyed.”
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Last Week Tonight host looks into recent safety and profit-driven culture issues plaguing major US airplane manufacturer
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... ver-boeing
John Oliver dug into commercial air travel and specifically the troubled recent safety record of Boeing, a few weeks after a door popped off a Boeing 737 Max-9 flown by Alaska Airlines mid-flight.
A few passengers were injured in the incident, and that was luck – if someone had been sitting in the exit row seat without a seatbelt, or if the door had fallen off at a higher altitude, the injuries could have been catastrophic. The plane was also new – it had been delivered by the manufacturer Boeing to Alaska Airlines two months earlier. “That’s too soon for a sneaker to fall apart, let alone a multimillion-dollar aircraft,” the Last Week Tonight host explained.
According to the preliminary investigation, four bolts that were supposed to hold the door in place were missing; Alaska Airlines subsequently found loose bolts on “many” of its Max 9 airplanes.
“It’s beginning to feel like this might be a much broader issue within Boeing,” said Oliver, “because it comes on the heels of a years-long string of alarming incidents”, from fires on board to a pair of devastating crashes that were blamed on Boeing planes. The Federal Aviation Administration recently gave the company 90 days to address safety issues, given reports that employees felt scared to report any concerns.
It’s a concerning turn for a US company that used to be synonymous with safety and craftsmanship. Best known for revolutionizing commercial aviation, Boeing for decades maintained a sterling reputation for excellence.
But in 1996, Boeing merged with McDonnell Douglas, a company known for building military planes with a terrible safety record. “Was merging with the McDonnell Douglas aerospace corporation slash murder emporium the worst decision that Boeing CEO’s worst decision? Probably not,” said Oliver, because the then CEO Philip Condit married his first cousin. “So the last decision I’d ask this guy to make is who it’s a good idea to couple up with.”
A profit-driven culture took over; within a few years, the company introduced a stock buyback program, as priorities shifted from safety and product to stock prices. Oliver outlined how this process affected the development of the 787 Dreamliner in the 2000s, which was given less than half the budget of previous planes, and outsourced production to 50 different suppliers. “So basically, the plan was for Boeing to create the plane the same way someone ‘creates’ a gingerbread house from a kit,” said Oliver, “essentially assembling a bunch of pieces other people made, leading to a finished product that, structurally speaking, was always going to be a **** mess.”
The Dreamliner, released three years late and $25bn over budget, was eventually grounded due to several fires on board within days of each other, the result of defective batteries made by a subcontractor and not audited by Boeing.
The company tried to rebound with the 737 Max model under the slogan “more is less”. At the same time, from 2014 to 2018, the company diverted 92% of operating cash flow to dividends and share buybacks to benefit investors, far exceeding its investment in research and development. And then two catastrophic crashes – the 2018 Lion Air crash, killing 189, and the 2019 Ethiopian Airlines crash, which killed 157 people – highlighted significant safety concerns.
Oliver summarized the issue with Boeing Max’s MCAS system, which altered the plane’s angle and could be compromised by a single sensor that could be knocked off by a bird or a balloon. Even worse, Boeing did not tell pilots about the MCAS system, which would require retraining. “How is information about a system that could crash the plane ‘unnecessary’?” Oliver fumed. “It’s not ‘all Fruit Loops are the same flavor’, or ‘identical twins don’t have the same fingerprints’, or ‘if you give a mirror to a dolphin, they’ll admire their own genitals’. All of that is good information, but unnecessary for a pilot to know. But ‘we put some software on the plane that might try and murder you’ feels important.”
After the Lion Air crash, Boeing promised to have a software fix for MCAS within six weeks. That didn’t happen; instead, the company authorized a record $20bn share buyback program. “So clearly they were concerned about safety – specifically, the safety of their **** stock price,” Oliver exclaimed.
The FAA grounded the 737 Max 3 days after the Ethiopian Airlines crash. During the plane’s two-year grounding, a congressional investigation found damning emails from employees aware of the MCAS issues – “this airplane is designed by clowns, who in turn are supervised by monkeys”, wrote one.
Which prompted Oliver to wonder: “Where the **** are the regulators?” For one, the FAA relied heavily on Boeing employees to vouch for the aircraft’s safety, because it lacked the ability to effectively analyze what Boeing shared. Also, Boeing appointed their own inspectors, employed by the company. “Boeing was paying Boeing employees to regulate Boeing,” said Oliver. “It’s the most incestuous relationship we’ve seen in this story so far, which is saying something because remember, this guy [former CEO Condit] was **** his first cousin.
“At every point along the way, the FAA either delegated responsibility to Boeing, or gave them the benefit of the doubt, which hopefully they will never do again,” Oliver summarized. “Because Boeing, like so many American companies, seems to be coasting on a reputation it built up over decades even though it squanders it quarter by quarter.”
Oliver echoed Boeing whistleblowers in calling for new leadership for the company, despite its public promises for more transparency and accountability. “If you truly are too big to fail,” he concluded, “that should mean that you are big enough to spend the time and resources required to fix the culture that you have destroyed.”
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John Oliver goes after Boeing with a brutal parody ad
"The very least you can do is advertise the kind of company you are in a much more accurate way."
https://mashable.com/video/john-oliver-boeing-parody-ad
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The culture at Boeing is the latest thing to come under the spotlight at Last Week Tonight, with host John Oliver taking a deep dive into the company's troubled history in the clip above — from the shift to a profit-driven model that happened after the company merged with McDonnell Douglas to the grounding of Boeing 737 Max airplanes in 2019 that followed fatal crashes caused by deadly AI software.
"It is pretty clear that something has to change at Boeing and it has to be at the top of that company," says Oliver at the end of the clip, after outlining ongoing issues with Boeing's Max aircrafts. "Because if you are truly too big to fail, that should mean you are big enough to spend the time and resources required to fix the culture that you have destroyed. And in the meantime, the very least you can do is advertise the kind of company you are in a much more accurate way."
Cue a parody ad staring Rose Byrne, David Costabile, Adam Pally and Roy Wood, Jr.
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"The very least you can do is advertise the kind of company you are in a much more accurate way."
https://mashable.com/video/john-oliver-boeing-parody-ad
Video link doesn't work here!
The culture at Boeing is the latest thing to come under the spotlight at Last Week Tonight, with host John Oliver taking a deep dive into the company's troubled history in the clip above — from the shift to a profit-driven model that happened after the company merged with McDonnell Douglas to the grounding of Boeing 737 Max airplanes in 2019 that followed fatal crashes caused by deadly AI software.
"It is pretty clear that something has to change at Boeing and it has to be at the top of that company," says Oliver at the end of the clip, after outlining ongoing issues with Boeing's Max aircrafts. "Because if you are truly too big to fail, that should mean you are big enough to spend the time and resources required to fix the culture that you have destroyed. And in the meantime, the very least you can do is advertise the kind of company you are in a much more accurate way."
Cue a parody ad staring Rose Byrne, David Costabile, Adam Pally and Roy Wood, Jr.
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I prefer as a slogan, Better is More....tried to rebound with the 737 Max model under the slogan “more is less”...
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So the answer to having to experience a fright when the door blew out is to demand $1billion from Boeing?
Is this for real?
Is this for real?
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NO. The answer is NOT having a door plug blow out. When it does, cash in?
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The Federal Aviation Administration has found multiple problems with Boeing’s production practices following a six-week audit triggered by the January 5 door plug blowout on an Alaska Airlines’ Boeing 737 Max 9.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/04/business ... index.html
“The FAA identified non-compliance issues in Boeing’s manufacturing process control, parts handling and storage, and product control,” the FAA said in a press release, but did not immediately provide further details.
A separate report launched prior to the door plug incident but released last month found “gaps” in Boeing’s safety culture, including a disconnect between management and employees, and fears among employees about retaliation for reporting safety concerns.
A Boeing 737 Max airplane sits parked at the company's production facility on November 18, 2020 in Renton, Washington. The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today cleared the Max for flight after 20 months of grounding. The 737 Max has been grounded worldwide since March 2019 after two deadly crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia.
The FAA said the findings of both this audit and the separate report should be part of Boeing’s quality improvement plan. It has given Boeing 90 days to produce the plan to fix its quality issues.
Boeing did not have an immediate comment on the FAA’s statement. But in January Boeing CEO David Calhoun conceded Boeing needed to improve its quality controls.
“Whatever final conclusions are reached, Boeing is accountable for what happened,” said Calhoun in comments to the company’s investors in January. “An event like this must not happen on an airplane that leaves our factory. We simply must do better for our customers and their passengers.”
The audit also included major Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems, which builds the fuselages for the Boeing 737 Max 9 jet, among other items. Without giving details, the FAA said it found multiple instances where both companies allegedly failed to comply with manufacturing quality control requirements.
Boeing used to own the operations that now make up most of Spirit, but spun it off as a separate company in 2005. Boeing disclosed on Friday that it is in negotiations to possibly re-acquire Spirit.
Asked for a comment on the report, a Spirit spokesman said only that “we are in communication with Boeing and the FAA on appropriate corrective actions.”
More than two dozen FAA inspectors are taking part in the audit of Boeing’s 737 plant in Renton, Washington, FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker told members of Congress during a hearing last month. The agency is not the only government body looking into Boeing’s quality issues.
The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating the incident aboard the Alaska Air flight. A preliminary report on the incident found that the four bolts needed to hold the door plug in place were missing when the jet left Boeing’s factory last October to be delivered to Alaska Air. The NTSB has yet to assign blame for the missing bolts.
In addition, the Justice Department is reviewing whether deficiencies found in the wake of the door plug blowout on a 737 Max flight last month violate a deferred prosecution agreement that Boeing signed with the government three years ago following two Max fatal crashes, according to a person familiar with the investigation. That probe could expose Boeing to criminal liability.
The final results of this audit will likely be the backbone of future congressional hearings that could take Boeing to task.
This Wednesday, NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy will give the latest on the Alaska Flight 1282 investigation to the Senate committee that oversees aviation. The chair of the Senate Commerce Committee has said that hearings involving Boeing executives will take place after senators hear the latest investigative findings.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/04/business ... index.html
“The FAA identified non-compliance issues in Boeing’s manufacturing process control, parts handling and storage, and product control,” the FAA said in a press release, but did not immediately provide further details.
A separate report launched prior to the door plug incident but released last month found “gaps” in Boeing’s safety culture, including a disconnect between management and employees, and fears among employees about retaliation for reporting safety concerns.
A Boeing 737 Max airplane sits parked at the company's production facility on November 18, 2020 in Renton, Washington. The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today cleared the Max for flight after 20 months of grounding. The 737 Max has been grounded worldwide since March 2019 after two deadly crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia.
The FAA said the findings of both this audit and the separate report should be part of Boeing’s quality improvement plan. It has given Boeing 90 days to produce the plan to fix its quality issues.
Boeing did not have an immediate comment on the FAA’s statement. But in January Boeing CEO David Calhoun conceded Boeing needed to improve its quality controls.
“Whatever final conclusions are reached, Boeing is accountable for what happened,” said Calhoun in comments to the company’s investors in January. “An event like this must not happen on an airplane that leaves our factory. We simply must do better for our customers and their passengers.”
The audit also included major Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems, which builds the fuselages for the Boeing 737 Max 9 jet, among other items. Without giving details, the FAA said it found multiple instances where both companies allegedly failed to comply with manufacturing quality control requirements.
Boeing used to own the operations that now make up most of Spirit, but spun it off as a separate company in 2005. Boeing disclosed on Friday that it is in negotiations to possibly re-acquire Spirit.
Asked for a comment on the report, a Spirit spokesman said only that “we are in communication with Boeing and the FAA on appropriate corrective actions.”
More than two dozen FAA inspectors are taking part in the audit of Boeing’s 737 plant in Renton, Washington, FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker told members of Congress during a hearing last month. The agency is not the only government body looking into Boeing’s quality issues.
The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating the incident aboard the Alaska Air flight. A preliminary report on the incident found that the four bolts needed to hold the door plug in place were missing when the jet left Boeing’s factory last October to be delivered to Alaska Air. The NTSB has yet to assign blame for the missing bolts.
In addition, the Justice Department is reviewing whether deficiencies found in the wake of the door plug blowout on a 737 Max flight last month violate a deferred prosecution agreement that Boeing signed with the government three years ago following two Max fatal crashes, according to a person familiar with the investigation. That probe could expose Boeing to criminal liability.
The final results of this audit will likely be the backbone of future congressional hearings that could take Boeing to task.
This Wednesday, NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy will give the latest on the Alaska Flight 1282 investigation to the Senate committee that oversees aviation. The chair of the Senate Commerce Committee has said that hearings involving Boeing executives will take place after senators hear the latest investigative findings.
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The people who are supposed to stop accidents like this happening are the FAA, with their design and plant inspections.
But the FAA have got rid of everyone who tried to stop these kind of travesties, so the company was able to do likewise.
And I could list other regulatory agencies on both sides of the Atlantic who do the same.
Do the C suite of Boeing need to be in jail? Yes. But so do the board of the FAA.
But the FAA have got rid of everyone who tried to stop these kind of travesties, so the company was able to do likewise.
And I could list other regulatory agencies on both sides of the Atlantic who do the same.
Do the C suite of Boeing need to be in jail? Yes. But so do the board of the FAA.
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OFSO was worried when he discovered that Spirit Aerosystems were supplying Airbus with components, but as far as I can find they are supplying the Airbus assembly plant in Mobile, Alabama and not Toulouse, so he can rest easy for the moment.
When all else fails, read the instructions.
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I wouldn't put any blame on Alaska for the incident. Short of stripping down all aircraft on delivery, there's no reason for them to expect any issues with the door on an aircraft that new. I guess the thinking is that because they were avoiding assigning anyone to the adjacent seat, they must have thought something was amiss.
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I picked up a couple of new Tornado F3s from the factory.
Immediately on delivery, the RAF put them in for a Minor Servicing, which involved stripping off everything that is bolted or screwed.
I was told tales of interesting things they found.
In fact, the RAF did not accept delivery until after the Minor was completed, which meant, thanks to the wonders of bureaucracy, that I personally was signing for the aircraft for the delivery flight.
Fortunately, as an experienced Flight Lieutenant, I was already in the habit of faking my own signature for everything.
Immediately on delivery, the RAF put them in for a Minor Servicing, which involved stripping off everything that is bolted or screwed.
I was told tales of interesting things they found.
In fact, the RAF did not accept delivery until after the Minor was completed, which meant, thanks to the wonders of bureaucracy, that I personally was signing for the aircraft for the delivery flight.
Fortunately, as an experienced Flight Lieutenant, I was already in the habit of faking my own signature for everything.
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After what has been going on with Boeing regarding the stuff that they've found hiding away in the KC-46s and the Dreamliners the airlines might want to do a C Check on delivery and charge it back to Boeing.
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'Absurd': NTSB chair blasts Boeing for failing to turn over records about mid-air blowout
“Without that information, that raises concerns about quality assurance," Jennifer Homendy told a Senate committee.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/busine ... rcna142118
Boeing has refused to tell investigators who worked on the door plug that later blew off a jetliner during flight in January, the chair of the National Transportation Safety Board said Wednesday.
The company also hasn’t provided documentation about a repair job that included removing and reinstalling the panel on the Boeing 737 Max 9 — or even whether Boeing kept records — Jennifer Homendy told a Senate committee.
“It’s absurd that two months later we don’t have that,” Homendy said. “Without that information, that raises concerns about quality assurance, quality management, safety management systems” at Boeing.
Lawmakers seemed stunned.
“That is utterly unacceptable,” said Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas.
Boeing did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., said she will ask Boeing to cooperate with the NTSB. Cantwell, who represents the state where Max jetliners are assembled, noted that the company is a leading U.S. exporter and major defense contractor.
“We need to get this right,” she said. “We need to help with the investigation so we can find out what in our system needs to be improved.”
Boeing has been under increasing scrutiny since the Jan. 5 incident in which a panel that plugged a space left for an extra emergency door blew off an Alaska Airlines Max 9. Pilots were able to land safely, and there were no injuries.
In a preliminary report last month, the NTSB said four bolts that help keep the door plug in place were missing after the panel was removed so workers could repair nearby damaged rivets last September. The rivet repairs were done by contractors working for Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems, but the NTSB still does not know who removed and replaced the door panel, Homendy said Wednesday.
Homendy said Boeing has a 25-member team led by a manager, but Boeing has declined repeated requests for their names so they can be interviewed by investigators. The manager of the team is on medical leave and unavailable, and security-camera footage that might have shown who removed the panel was erased and recorded over 30 days later, she said.
The Federal Aviation Administration recently gave Boeing 90 days to say how it will respond to quality-control issues raised by the agency and a panel of industry and government experts. The panel found problems in Boeing’s safety culture despite improvements made after two Max 8 jets crashed in 2018 and 2019, killing 346 people.
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“Without that information, that raises concerns about quality assurance," Jennifer Homendy told a Senate committee.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/busine ... rcna142118
Boeing has refused to tell investigators who worked on the door plug that later blew off a jetliner during flight in January, the chair of the National Transportation Safety Board said Wednesday.
The company also hasn’t provided documentation about a repair job that included removing and reinstalling the panel on the Boeing 737 Max 9 — or even whether Boeing kept records — Jennifer Homendy told a Senate committee.
“It’s absurd that two months later we don’t have that,” Homendy said. “Without that information, that raises concerns about quality assurance, quality management, safety management systems” at Boeing.
Lawmakers seemed stunned.
“That is utterly unacceptable,” said Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas.
Boeing did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., said she will ask Boeing to cooperate with the NTSB. Cantwell, who represents the state where Max jetliners are assembled, noted that the company is a leading U.S. exporter and major defense contractor.
“We need to get this right,” she said. “We need to help with the investigation so we can find out what in our system needs to be improved.”
Boeing has been under increasing scrutiny since the Jan. 5 incident in which a panel that plugged a space left for an extra emergency door blew off an Alaska Airlines Max 9. Pilots were able to land safely, and there were no injuries.
In a preliminary report last month, the NTSB said four bolts that help keep the door plug in place were missing after the panel was removed so workers could repair nearby damaged rivets last September. The rivet repairs were done by contractors working for Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems, but the NTSB still does not know who removed and replaced the door panel, Homendy said Wednesday.
Homendy said Boeing has a 25-member team led by a manager, but Boeing has declined repeated requests for their names so they can be interviewed by investigators. The manager of the team is on medical leave and unavailable, and security-camera footage that might have shown who removed the panel was erased and recorded over 30 days later, she said.
The Federal Aviation Administration recently gave Boeing 90 days to say how it will respond to quality-control issues raised by the agency and a panel of industry and government experts. The panel found problems in Boeing’s safety culture despite improvements made after two Max 8 jets crashed in 2018 and 2019, killing 346 people.
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Maybe there IS NO paperwork and that is the root of the problem?
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If there was I'm sure it is no longer around.
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Re: More Boeing Bad News
That would be the person/people who signed off on it having been done, I suspect.
Should not be the hardest job in the world to work out who, though.
But they will be less worse off with claiming it was not signed by omission, than admitting it was signed when clearly no inspection was done.
Boeing, however, are now deeper in it since they clearly have a highly fallible record system as well as sh!te quality control.
I wonder where the bolts are?
Should not be the hardest job in the world to work out who, though.
But they will be less worse off with claiming it was not signed by omission, than admitting it was signed when clearly no inspection was done.
Boeing, however, are now deeper in it since they clearly have a highly fallible record system as well as sh!te quality control.
I wonder where the bolts are?