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AS350 crash on Hawaiian island - 7 dead

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:15 am
by FD2
Seven up in a single engine Squirrel over that terrain? Shouldn't be allowed should it?

More tourists pay the price of operators grabbing the tourist money - this time in Hawaii, but it's not confined to the States. New York Harbour, Fox Glacier New Zealand spring to mind immediately. X( :-q

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... melessDM_0

Re: AS350 crash on Hawaiian island - 7 dead

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:36 am
by TheGreenGoblin
How is it that the FAR's can allow public commercial carriage, single engined, over such terrain?
Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 135
on-demand commercial air tour flight. Company flight following procedures were in effect for
the visual flight rules flight

Re: AS350 crash on Hawaiian island - 7 dead

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:48 am
by TheGreenGoblin
Here is the preliminary report on last year's Safari AS350 crash with loss of pilot and 6 passengers!

https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Repor ... m&IType=MA

Re: AS350 crash on Hawaiian island - 7 dead

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:27 am
by TheGreenGoblin
Marginal VFR condtions that morped into IFR (fog, rain). It has happened before.

https://www.skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/1049.pdf
On September 23, 2005, about 1415 Hawaiian standard time,1 an Aerospatiale AS350BA helicopter, N355NT, registered to Jan Leasing, LLC, and operated by Heli-USA Airways, Inc.,of Las Vegas, Nevada, encountered adverse weather and crashed into the Pacific Ocean several hundred feet off the coast of Kailiu Point, near Haena, Hawaii, on the island of Kauai. The sightseeing air tour flight was operated under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 135 and visual flight rules (VFR) with a company flight plan in effect. Localized instrument meteorological conditions (IMC) prevailed in the vicinity of the accident site. Three
passengers were killed, and the commercial pilot and two other passengers received minor injuries. The flight departed from Lihue Airport (LIH), Lihue, Hawaii, on the island of Kauai, at 1354 for the intended 45-minute tour.

The flight was operated under Special Federal Aviation Regulation (SFAR) 71, “Special Operating Rules for Air Tour Operators in the State of Hawaii,”
http://www.pilotfriend.com/FARS/30/SFAR ... 07.htm#top

Re: AS350 crash on Hawaiian island - 7 dead

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:16 am
by FD2
Two in less than a year and another emerges from the past - thanks GG.

This just isn't good enough.

Re: AS350 crash on Hawaiian island - 7 dead

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:07 am
by TheGreenGoblin
FD2 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:16 am
Two in less than a year and another emerges from the past - thanks GG.

This just isn't good enough.
Like you FD2, initially I was led to believe there had been two recent crashes but those nincompoops at the Daily Mail have arbitrarily republished their report relating to the accident last year, again today.

Re: AS350 crash on Hawaiian island - 7 dead

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:42 pm
by FD2
Wot a bunch of tw@ts. I’m very pleased to hear that GG. Maybe admin could wipe the thread?

Re: AS350 crash on Hawaiian island - 7 dead

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:30 pm
by FD2
I am cynical enough to believe that this will happen again somewhere in the world, once Covid has been sorted and tourist numbers start to rise again. :(