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Worrying engine fire

#1 Post by Boac » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:09 am

A UPS 747-800 out of HK had a No1 engine fire on take-off and returned for an over-weight landing. The real worry here is that the fire could not be extinguished until on the ground.

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#2 Post by Ex-Ascot » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:59 pm

Interesting. Well managed.

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#3 Post by Boac » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:06 pm

I guess that poster must be Rob the Knob using a different alias?

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#4 Post by Ex-Ascot » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:19 pm

Boac wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:06 pm
I guess that poster must be Rob the Knob using a different alias?
Quite possible.
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#5 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:19 pm

"Worrying engine fire!"

Are there any engine fires that aren't worrying?
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#6 Post by G-CPTN » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:23 pm

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
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"Worrying engine fire!"

Are there any engine fires that aren't worrying?
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#7 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:26 pm

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#8 Post by Undried Plum » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:27 pm

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:19 pm
"Worrying engine fire!"

Are there any engine fires that aren't worrying?

The one wot doesn't go out after both bottles of extinguishant have been used must be pretty much at the top of that list of worrying engine fires, I'd say.

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#9 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:29 pm

Undried Plum wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:27 pm
TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:19 pm
"Worrying engine fire!"

Are there any engine fires that aren't worrying?

The one wot doesn't go out after both bottles of extinguishant have been used must be pretty much at the top of that list of worrying engine fires, I'd say.
Yeah I get that! Nothing like watching the wing structure start to melt and weaken as the fuel bladders melt and the tanks begin expanding ominously.
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#10 Post by Boac » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:34 pm

More importantly, where is the fuel coming from? There are at least two shut-offs for an engine. I wonder if it was an oil tank leak.
TGG wrote:Are there any engine fires that aren't worrying?
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#11 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:38 pm

Boac wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:34 pm
More importantly, where is the fuel coming from? There are at least two shut-offs for an engine. I wonder if it was an oil tank leak.
TGG wrote:Are there any engine fires that aren't worrying?
I say, my good fellow - you do understand how jet engines work, don't you?................
Yes, they put some bloke called Brayton and his cycle in a tube on the wing and set him on fire. As long as he cycles inside a place called the combustion chamber all is well and hopefully he doesn't lose his goolies in the turbines...

What terrible stator of affairs that would be! =))
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#12 Post by Undried Plum » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:51 pm

You just wait until Tesla makes aero-engines: ;)))



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#13 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:39 pm

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#14 Post by Boac » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:50 pm

According to AvHerald the fire did not go out until the a/c touched down and it relit when it came to a halt. Has to be oil unless there are leaking hydraulics somewhere.

One post details events:
Started as an 'exceedance' for which the drill was begun but it became a fire.

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#15 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:34 pm

Here is a tale in the ILAFFT vein, that deals with an Indian Air Force pyromaniac QFI... (maybe it should be in the Ripley's Believe It Or Not).

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#16 Post by Boac » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:05 pm

Wrong thread, TGG - You need the 'Worrying Pilot' Thread. =))

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#17 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:55 pm

Boac wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:05 pm
Wrong thread, TGG - You need the 'Worrying Pilot' Thread. =))
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#18 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:05 pm

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:55 pm
Boac wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:05 pm
Wrong thread, TGG - You need the 'Worrying Pilot' Thread. =))
True. :)
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