Naughty 777

[Boac]

This looks interesting.

https://www.airlive.net/breaking-pilots ... s-cdg/amp/

[boing]

Sort of reminds me about the old joke about English being the language of aviation. Did they have the translator turned on?

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[Alisoncc]

Had similar thoughts Boing. Don't they know Alexa doesn't speak frog. Actually the airie didn't want to land in Paris. Which is understandable. Got a whif on short finals and thought bugger this.

[PHXPhlyer]

Had similar thoughts Boing. Don't they know Alexa doesn't speak frog. Actually the airie didn't want to land in Paris. Which is understandable. Got a whif on short finals and thought bugger this.

Sorry to burst your bubble Alison.
The plane was in Air France and was probably full of fFrenchies, it was already pretty whiffy.

PP

[TheGreenGoblin]

That sounds pretty hectic and serious too me!



Incident: France B773 at Paris on Apr 5th 2022, airplane did not respond to commands

By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Apr 5th 2022 19:02Z, last updated Tuesday, Apr 5th 2022 19:02Z

An Air France Boeing 777-300, registration F-GSQJ performing flight AF-11 from New York JFK,NY (USA) to Paris Charles de Gaulle (France), was on final approach to Paris' runway 26L established on localizer and cleared to land descending through about 1500 feet when the crew was heard on tower frequency audibly in distress, alarm sounds in the background, one of the pilots calling "Stop! Stop!", "Stop it!", tower instructed the crew to stop the approach at 1500 feet. When the aircraft descended through 1200 feet significantly having veered to the left off the localizer the autopilot disconnect wailer can finally be heard on the radio transmission, the crew manages to go around from about 1150 feet. While climbing out and levelling off at 4000 feet the crew reported they had problems with the aircraft not following commands, the aircraft did not follow the commands. The crew requested runway 27R under radar vectoring, positioned for an approach to 27R and landed without further incident.

The aircraft is still on the ground in Paris about 10.5 hours after landing.

According to ADS-B data transmitted by the aircraft was at 1725 feet MSL about 4.17nm before the runway threshold (glideslope at 1768 feet MSL). The aircraft subsequently began to deviate to the left.

https://avherald.com/h?article=4f700fec

Could this have been the false glideslope bogeyman?

[Boac]

Unlikely - localiser maybe?

[TheGreenGoblin]

Unlikely - localiser maybe?

Yes, you are right they seem, to have lost lateral orientation.

[TheGreenGoblin]

Sort of reminds me about the old joke about English being the language of aviation. Did they have the translator turned on?

First time I flew in France I was stupid enough to answer a reply from Paris Information in French. They responded in rapid French and steadfastly refused to speak English thereafter, much to my discomfort. My smart-arsery definitely rebounded on me there!

[unifoxos]

From the article in post 5

tower instructed the crew to stop the approach at 1500 feet

Er - not what I heard?

[TheGreenGoblin]

From the article in post 5

tower instructed the crew to stop the approach at 1500 feet

Er - not what I heard?

I don't hear mille cinq cents at 0:55 either!

[unifoxos]

I couldn't make out the height but I heard the call sign as "Air France Hotel Whisky", same as came up on the caption, and a different voice acknowledged the instruction.

[Boac]

Come on, you lot, where's the METAR - how can we solve this without?

[TheGreenGoblin]

Come on, you lot, where's the METAR - how can we solve this without?

Already there... see the Aviation Herald link!

[Boac]

No - if we are to do a 'TOP' analysis is has to be posted here!

[Boac]

Even without a Metar mon argent is on le doigt versatile du destin francais

[TheGreenGoblin]

I couldn't make out the height but I heard the call sign as "Air France Hotel Whisky", same as came up on the caption, and a different voice acknowledged the instruction.

0:55 (ATC) - "Stop the descent immediately..."

Later - (Pilot x) - "The controls were doing what they wanted..."

[llondel]

Later - (Pilot x) - "The controls were doing what they wanted..."

I thought that was how Airbus aircraft worked.

[TheGreenGoblin]

Later - (Pilot x) - "The controls were doing what they wanted..."

I thought that was how Airbus aircraft worked.

This was a Boeing llondel...

Where is Boac tonight?

[Boac]

About 3 posts ahead of you? (and still waiting for the METAR)

llondel was being 'amusant'. I liked it!

[TheGreenGoblin]

About 3 posts ahead of you? (and still waiting for the METAR)

llondel was being 'amusant'. I liked it!

You English think the French are funny, you with your "baggage", bad teeth, no indigenous aircraft and smelly fish and chips! Even the South Africans burst their pimples at you!



And your "rugby", like Russian homosexuals...

Cue "mess fight", with, later, apparent demotions but secret kudos for those who fought for honour!

I must ask you English, when did you last totally produce an aircraft of any note whatsoever?

The French are now the 3rd biggest exporter of home grown fighter aircraft in the world. Go figure...

The silly arrogance, and self delusion of Albion, as much as I love her!