Would you fly Air France?

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Re: Would you fly Air France?

#21 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon May 09, 2022 1:16 pm

Did a lunch stop at a frog air force base. In the OM all the pilots were drinking wine and then flying. I don't think that they consider wine as alcoholic. It is just something you drink with a meal.
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Re: Would you fly Air France?

#22 Post by PHXPhlyer » Mon May 09, 2022 2:42 pm

Ex-Ascot wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 1:16 pm
I don't think that they consider wine as alcoholic. It is just something you drink with a meal.
I think that I will adopt that attitude.
It will help me cut down my "alcohol" consumption. :))
I feel much better now. #:-S :ymdevil:

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Re: Would you fly Air France?

#23 Post by OFSO » Fri May 13, 2022 2:35 pm

Slight thread drift. Up-country in Spain, after asking for a Ricard and a G&T, answer in the restaurant was "we don't serve alcohol here, only beer and wine".

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Re: Would you fly Air France?

#24 Post by Ex-Ascot » Fri May 13, 2022 3:44 pm

OFSO wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 2:35 pm
Slight thread drift. Up-country in Spain, after asking for a Ricard and a G&T, answer in the restaurant was "we don't serve alcohol here, only beer and wine".
So what do the pilots on the flight deck have with their lunch?
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Re: Would you fly Air France?

#25 Post by OFSO » Sat May 14, 2022 6:15 am

I've seen AF crew enjoying a bottle of beer and a sandwich in the cockpit while waiting to depart C d G. Might have been alcohol-free beer. Who knows.

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Re: Would you fly Air France?

#26 Post by Rossian » Sat May 14, 2022 12:41 pm

My experience flying with the French Aeronavale was, with a meal came half a paper cup of vin very ordinaire in 12 hours. I'm talking the old RAF paper cup size ie not very much. The image of pissed crews is so wrong it ain't true.

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Re: Would you fly Air France?

#27 Post by Boac » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:14 pm

I have just watched Juan Browne's (Blancolirio) Tech debrief on the Paris incident

and the picture he paints of the two matelots in the bows of the ship FIGHTING each other on the control column with sufficient force to actuate the inter-column disconnect mechanism is literally frightening.

Reinforces the question in post #1! Talk about cowboys......

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#28 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:22 am

The Blancolirio Channel is really very good. At a 50 lbs torque differential on the columns, one assumes that that must have been some arm wrestle between two pilots who should have known better. Surely a simple, "I have the aircraft" from the captain should have sufficed?
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Re: Would you fly Air France?

#29 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:51 am

..not since AF447.
And I have paid extra and moved dates to avoid using them.

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Re: Would you fly Air France?

#30 Post by Boac » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:40 am

TGG wrote:Surely a simple, "I have the aircraft" from the captain should have sufficed?
Revisit AF447 and substitute 'Pilot in charge'?

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