Flying in Tibet - Thai Airways International Flight 311

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Flying in Tibet - Thai Airways International Flight 311

#1 Post by TheGreenAnger » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:02 am

Came across this accident that I had hitherto not heard of which is an interesting, albeit tragic, case covering the multiple aspects of deficiencies in piloting, CRM, ATC and procedure flying that resulted in CFIT.





Thai Airways International Flight 311
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Re: Flying in Tibet - Thai Airways International Flight 311

#2 Post by Ex-Ascot » Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:38 am

The Captain was an idiot. I have flown into there many times. It is tricky but requires situational awareness.
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Re: Flying in Nepal - Thai Airways International Flight 311

#3 Post by TheGreenAnger » Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:40 am

I am glad that you didn't lump me in with the spatially confused Captain, as Kathmandu is in Nepal! =))
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Re: Flying in Tibet - Thai Airways International Flight 311

#4 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:09 pm

Wow. Flying the airplane, monitoring the instruments AND operating the radio!
Joking aside, I am wondering if they wouldn't just have been better off flying the airplane manually and following the TAP chart?
This, as Ex-A points out is vital, would make it easier for them to retain SA.
This appears to be a classic case of the auto-switchology sucking in the attention of the crew to resolve what are in themselves minor issues.
I am not at all convinced that insisting the crew use the automatics is a good idea, especially when combined with reduced actual pilot handling, both in training and in service.
There are a high proportion of accidents these days where this appears to be a key factor.

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