Air NZ, 'don't tell them till we get there'

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G-CPTN · #21 Post by **G-CPTN** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:46 pm

k3k3 wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:32 pm
It would probably be cheaper just to throw a few thousand dollars at each of the passengers in compensation.

That isn't sympathetic to passengers who might have lost treasured items.

k3k3 · #22 Post by **k3k3** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:53 pm

I know, I was just thinking how calculating the airline were in the first place.

Wodrick · #23 Post by **Wodrick** » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:00 pm

Only a fool puts treasured items in hold baggage.

ExSp33db1rd · #24 Post by **ExSp33db1rd** » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:21 am

......... so 24 years after retirement it will go.

Correct 1983 + 24 = 2007. Got a bit more 'cos they allowed 5 years from the start of the new regime. "To get used to it".

When we moved to NZ - for a variety of reasons, BA still flew here, so I made a few trips back to UK with them and when they pulled out of NZ services Air NZ permitted BA staff to use their S.T. allowances, but not now, all " Interline Agreements" between the two have gone even if I still qualified with B.A.

Glad Willie Walsh, the cause of my disenfranchment, gets S.T. for life in his retirement, plus a few million quid "bonus". (My comments removed before Admin 2 does !!)

#25 Post by **admin2** » Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:16 am

Admin2 might just have been tempted to..................

Ex-Ascot · #26 Post by **Ex-Ascot** » Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:28 am

As Woody says can they take two loads of bags on the next flight? Doubt it.

One year in the planning. How many times did they run a flight plan to see if it could be done with a full load? This time it couldn't and it was just the first flight. They may never catch up with luggage left behind.

G-CPTN · #27 Post by **G-CPTN** » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:08 pm

Ex-Ascot wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:28 am
They may never catch up with luggage left behind.

What 'low-cost' alternative transport (assuming air) could they employ?
Assume no cabin crew needed (apart from flight-deck, obviously).

Don't suppose a drone would have the capacity and the duration (but I could be wrong when you consider current military drones).

Ex-Ascot · #28 Post by **Ex-Ascot** » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:03 pm

Usually on a wide bodied jet there is plenty of spare cargo 'space'. They could chuck it on another airline who does two stages. We probably used to make more out of flying newspapers tabloids out for the brain dead of the UK to read on the beach than from the brain dead themselves.

Boac · #29 Post by **Boac** » Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:30 pm

G-CPTN wrote:What 'low-cost' alternative transport (assuming air) could they employ?

It really is incredibly simple. They need to 'adjust' the passenger load (obviously with their baggage) so that the string will reach. The only snag I can think of is something called 'profit'.

Ex-Ascot · #30 Post by **Ex-Ascot** » Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:28 pm

Boac I think that they are working on a best scenario schedule. They need to be more realistic and as you say reduce the planned load. Perhaps on the day they could load some standbys.

FD2 · #31 Post by **FD2** » Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:39 pm

Some the passengers were interviewed on TV as they emerged from Immigration etc. They were definitely not amused and as Woody says where do you put the missing bags? There was a vague promise of sending them on 'when they could'.

Re-plan with lower payload and add standby pax if headwinds less strong? I wonder what their baggage allowance is on that sector.

John Hill · #32 Post by **John Hill** » Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:57 pm

They are going to put some of those plastic coffin things on the roof for the extra baggage..

G-CPTN · #33 Post by **G-CPTN** » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:00 pm

They could also tow a 'trailer' . . .

llondel · #34 Post by **llondel** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:25 am

They'll probably put it all in a container or two and send it by sea. Except it'll probably be a couple of months before it gets on a ship and then will take another couple more before it arrives.

FD2 · #35 Post by **FD2** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:37 am

RNZAF has a few Hercules - maybe they can help.

Woody · #36 Post by **Woody** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:16 pm

Looks like Plan B is in operation

CharlieOneSix · #37 Post by **CharlieOneSix** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:29 pm

FR24 satellite tracking shows a sudden turn towards Nadi a few minutes ago?! Maybe only just told the pax even though an earlier decision was taken? A change in the ETA in the two screenshots from 0845 to 0932.....

TheGreenAnger · #38 Post by **TheGreenAnger** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:40 pm

Misbegotten route. Aspirations more than mathematicians... speed = distance ÷ time ergo distance = speed * time...

Minder spoed, minder tyd om daaraan te kom!

John Hill · #39 Post by **John Hill** » Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:50 am

The hare and the tortoise!

John Hill · #40 Post by **John Hill** » Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:56 am

I don't have a suitable map on hand but from that position Nandi may be closer than Orkland but I wonder by how much?

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