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1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#1 Post by PHXPhlyer » Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:13 pm

1 killed when business jet encounters severe turbulence
Turbulence accounted for more than a third of accidents on larger commercial airlines between 2009 and 2018, according to the NTSB.

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WINDSOR LOCKS, Conn. — A business jet was buffeted by severe turbulence over New England, causing the death of a passenger and forcing the aircraft to divert to Bradley International Airport in Connecticut, officials said Saturday.

Five people were aboard the Bombardier executive jet that was shaken by turbulence late Friday afternoon while traveling from Keene, New Hampshire, to Leesburg, Virginia, said Sarah Sulick, a spokesperson for the National Transportation Safety Board.

The extent of the damage was unclear and the NTSB did not provide details on the cause of death. The jet is owned by Conexon, a telecommunications company based in Kansas City, Missouri, according to a Federal Aviation Administration database. The company declined comment Saturday.

NTSB investigators were interviewing the two crew members and surviving passengers as part of a probe into the deadly encounter with turbulence, Sulick said. The jet’s cockpit voice and data recorders were sent to NTSB headquarters for analysis, she said.

Turbulence, which is unstable air in the atmosphere, remains a cause for injury for airline passengers despite airline safety improvements over the years.

Earlier this week, seven people were hurt badly enough to be transported to hospitals after a Lufthansa Airbus A330 experienced turbulence while flying from Texas to Germany. The plane was diverted to Virginia’s Washington Dulles International Airport.

Turbulence accounted for more than a third of accidents on larger commercial airlines between 2009 and 2018, according to the NTSB.

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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#2 Post by G-CPTN » Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:07 pm

I guess that any 'fall' resulting in contact with a solid surface can result in serious injuries that can prove fatal.

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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#3 Post by llondel » Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:07 am

G-CPTN wrote:
Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:07 pm
I guess that any 'fall' resulting in contact with a solid surface can result in serious injuries that can prove fatal.
Higher probability if it's fall "up", so the head hits first.

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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#4 Post by Ex-Ascot » Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:32 am

Can't understand the mentality of pax not wearing a seat belt.
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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#5 Post by G-CPTN » Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 am

Ex-Ascot wrote:
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Can't understand the mentality of pax not wearing a seat belt.
Or a safety helmet . . .

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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#6 Post by reddo » Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 am

So many just think it doesn't relate to them. We see it all the time. Zero awareness of what the aircraft is doing and zero awareness of the risks of moving around.
It's very frustrating.

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#7 Post by tango15 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:09 pm

Ex-Ascot wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:32 am
Can't understand the mentality of pax not wearing a seat belt.
:-bd

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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#8 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:01 am

reddo wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 am
So many just think it doesn't relate to them. We see it all the time. Zero awareness of what the aircraft is doing and zero awareness of the risks of moving around.
It's very frustrating.
On Royal and VIP flights we had people sleeping in beds or journalists asleep on tables or the floor and people walking about on landing. One press report said that the landing was so smooth he didn't even wake up from the table he was asleep on. Kind of him to say so but some three star read it and I was hauled, yet again, into the Station Commander's office. I asked him if he would be prepared to shake HMQ awake and ask her to strap in. Thinking of his KG he said no so I got a biscuit with my tea.

There were no PAs and the seat belt signs were just for decoration. Top of descent the nav filled in a small form with destination weather, local time and ETA (always schedule) give it to the ADC who would give it to the principle pax, if awake! Otherwise would put it on his/her pillow maybe.
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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#9 Post by Rwy in Sight » Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:58 am

What is KG? Excuse my ignorance.

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#10 Post by G-CPTN » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:39 am

Knighthood.

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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#11 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:15 am

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Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:39 am
Knighthood.
In fact the very highest honour of the Garter. The most senior military officers get a Knighthood automatically but not a KG normally it is usually KCB which is Knight Commander of the Bath. The King gives you a rubber duck to use when he Knights you. It is all very complicated. Not something I am ever going to be worried about understanding. RiS, sorry, but no reason that you should understand. Think that I posted that we met a KG at the safari camp last month.
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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#12 Post by Rossian » Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:21 am

Was the one death due to injury or fear induced cardiac arrest? Only because I'm curious you understand.

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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#13 Post by PHXPhlyer » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:17 pm

9/11 Commission member ID'd as person killed when business jet hit turbulence
Dana Hyde, 55, was among five people aboard the private jet owned by Conexon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pr ... -rcna73587

A woman who died after the business jet she was aboard hit heavy turbulence while flying over New England was identified Monday as a prominent Beltway lawyer who once served on the 9/11 Commission.

Dana J. Hyde's name was released by the Connecticut State Troopers, one of the agencies investigating Friday's emergency landing at Bradley International Airport just north of Hartford.

Hyde, 55, who lived in Cabin John, Maryland, was rushed by ambulance to Saint Francis Medical Center in Hartford, where she was pronounced dead, the agency said.

Her remains are with the Connecticut Office of the Chief Medical Examiner while the FBI and the National Transportation Safety Board investigate what happened aboard the Bombardier executive jet that was traveling from Keene, New Hampshire, to Leesburg, Virginia, before suddenly diverting to Bradley.

Five people were aboard the private jet, which is owned by Conexon, a company based in Kansas City, Missouri, according to a Federal Aviation Administration database.

"We can confirm that the aircraft was owned by Conexon and that Dana Hyde was the wife of Conexon partner Jonathan Chambers," company spokesperson Abby Carere said in an email. "Jonathan and his son were on the flight also and not injured in the incident. "

Conexon specializes in expanding high-speed internet service to rural communities.

NTSB investigators were interviewing the two crew members and two surviving passengers to see, among other things, whether they were wearing seat belts when the plane was hit by turbulence, The Associated Press reported. The jet’s cockpit voice and data recorders were sent to the NTSB headquarters for analysis.


Hyde is identified on her LinkedIn page as the co-chair of the Aspen Institute's Partnership for an Inclusive Economy.

Jon Purves, a spokesman for the organization, said Hyde was a part-time consultant and, in that role, served as co-chair of APIE from 2020-2021.

"During her time with us, Dana was a brilliant and generous colleague who worked closely with programs across the organization to build partnerships and enhance our collective work," he said. "The thoughts of our entire Aspen Institute community are with Dana’s family and loved ones."

Prior to that, Hyde served in both the Obama and the Clinton administrations and was in private practice as well, according to her biography. From 2002 to 2004, she also served on the commission that investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

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Re: 1 Dead Due to Turbulence Onboard Bombardier Biz Jet

#14 Post by PHXPhlyer » Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:14 pm

Passenger’s death on private jet was not caused by turbulence from weather, NTSB says

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/24/us/turbu ... index.html

Investigators say the violent movements that killed a woman aboard a private jet this month were multiple times the pull of gravity and were not caused by the weather.

The National Transportation Safety Board said the aircraft experienced a force about four times the pull of gravity when the pilots disabled a setting that is used to stabilize the aircraft. The pilots were in the process of resolving warning messages from the aircraft.

“As soon as the switch position was moved, the airplane abruptly pitched up,” the preliminary report said.

One of the pilots “immediately with both hands regained control of the airplane in what he estimated to be a few seconds after the airplane’s pitch oscillated up and down.”

The plane pitched up and down like a roller coaster several times: First 3.8Gs up, then 2.3Gs downward, followed by 4.2Gs upward.

Dana Hyde, of Maryland, was the passenger who died, Connecticut State Police said.

The NTSB previously said the violent movements “resulted in fatal injuries to a passenger,” who the Connecticut State Police identified as Dana Hyde. Hyde is a former Obama administration White House official who also worked at the State Department.

The report does not specify whether Hyde was seated or wearing a seatbelt at the time.

“The flight crew reported that they did not experience any remarkable turbulence during the flight, nor during the time immediately surrounding the in-flight upset event,” the report said.

Following the violent movements, another passenger reported Hyde’s injuries to the pilots. One of the pilots left the cockpit “to provide medical attention for a short period of time,” according to the report.

“He subsequently informed the PIC [pilot in charge] that there was a medical emergency and that they needed to land,” the report said.

The Bombardier CL30 jet departed from Dillant-Hopkins Airport in Keene, New Hampshire, on March 3 and was headed to Leesburg Executive Airport in Virginia when it was diverted to Bradley International Airport in Windsor Locks after “encountering severe turbulence,” the Federal Aviation Administration wrote in a statement to CNN at the time.

The pilots had received multiple alerts from the aircraft prior to the incident, and even aborted their first takeoff attempt because of an issue with the aircraft. They discovered a protective cover used when the aircraft is parked was left on the plane, the report said.

After restarting the plane, they received additional alerts from the aircraft but proceeded with the takeoff and flight because the alerts did not meet the threshold for grounding.

At the time of the incident, the pilots were attempting to resolve the issues by using a checklist for a failure of the primary stabilizer trim, the report said.

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#15 Post by Boac » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:58 pm

Worth noting all the errors this crew made in the NTSB report - wow!
https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/ ... 106816/pdf

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#16 Post by Dushan » Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:48 pm

The NTSB previously said the violent movements “resulted in fatal injuries to a passenger,” who the Connecticut State Police identified as Dana Hyde. Hyde is a former Obama administration White House official who also worked at the State Department.
Wonder what she had on the Clintons?
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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