USN P-8A Poseidon in Kaneohe Bay off Marine Corps Base Hawaii

[PHXPhlyer]

US Navy jet overshoots runway into water off Hawaii

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/politics ... index.html

A US Navy reconnaissance jet with nine crew members aboard crashed into water off the Hawaiian island of Oahu on Monday after overshooting the runway at a US Marine Corps base there, military officials said.

There were no casualties aboard the P-8A Poseidon aircraft, a twin-engine multimission patrol and reconnaissance jet with the airframe of a Boeing 737 passenger plane, according to Marine Corps spokesperson 1st Lt. Hailey Harms.

Harms said the conditions of the nine personnel aboard were being assessed.

Pictures showed the aircraft upright with its wings slightly above the waterline in Kaneohe Bay off Marine Corps Base Hawaii on the main island of Oahu, north of the capital of Honolulu.

Visibility was down to around a mile at the time of the incident, with wind gusts up to 21 miles per hour and mist, according to the National Weather Service.

The P-8A Poseidon is a workhorse of US Navy operations.

It can carry both torpedoes and cruise missiles, while conducting antisubmarine and antisurface warfare and intelligence gathering missions.

A statement from the US Navy’s Third Fleet said the jet, based in Whidbey Island, Washington, was “on a detachment in support of maritime homeland defense.”

Earlier this year, a P-8A operating over the South China Sea with a CNN crew aboard was intercepted by a Chinese fighter jet in an encounter that saw the Chinese plane come within 500 feet of it.

P-8 aircraft are also flown by the Australian, New Zealand, British, Norwegian and Indian militaries, according to Boeing.

PP

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

Appears to be a 7,500 ft runway.
I think wind was 060/15G21, and they are off the south end, so looks like a downwind landing....15kts downwind landing???
Does Not Compute.

[Ex-Ascot]

Appears to be a 7,500 ft runway.
I think wind was 060/15G21, and they are off the south end, so looks like a downwind landing....15kts downwind landing???
Does Not Compute.

15G21. Maybe this is why they got their feet wet.

[Boac]

At the risk of becoming a TOP accident 'expert' I would venture possibly the need for an instrument approach in the weather and the extreme difficulty in putting the beast down in the right place with that tailwind. How they got in that position.....................?

The pictures show it 'only just' went off the end, which, of course, is enough.

[tango15]

A few have commented that if the water had been any deeper, they might have needed another P-8 to find it.

[Boac]

Interesting - according to 'Airnav', it has no published instrument procedures and may have only a VOR. The options available do raise questions.....

There are no published instrument procedures at PHNG.

Some nearby airports with instrument procedures:
PHNL - Daniel K Inouye International Airport (12 nm SW)
PHJR - Kalaeloa Airport (John Rodgers Field) (19 nm SW)
PHMK - Molokai Airport (42 nm SE)
PHLU - Kalaupapa Airport (47 nm E)
PHNY - Lanai Airport (61 nm SE)

PHNL has 9000' on 04R and R22L with an ILS

[PHXPhlyer]

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The pictures show it 'only just' went off the end, which, of course, is enough.

Like kinda pregnant?

PP

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

"Mostly peaceful"

[Boac]

Hey, PHX - wot dis tiktok voodoo stuff you am doin'?

PS The link (almost) doesn't work.

[Boac]

They have the FDR now, but the CVR would, I think, be of far more value..............

[PHXPhlyer]

Underwater video shows tires of Navy plane that went into a Hawaii bay touching a coral reef
The Navy Poseidon surveillance plane overshot a runway approaching a Marine Corps base in Hawaii on Nov. 20, ending up in Kaneohe Bay.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/un ... rcna127401

KANEOHE BAY, Hawaii — Tires from a large airplane that’s been stuck in a Hawaii bay for more than a week are resting on parts of a reef, according to video the U.S. Navy released Wednesday as it figures out a plan to remove the aircraft.

There were no injuries to the nine people who were on board when the plane landed Nov. 20 in shallow water just offshore of Marine Corps Base Hawaii at Kaneohe Bay. The base is about 10 miles from Honolulu. The Navy is investigating what caused the plane to overshoot a runway.


Recovery of downed Navy plane continues
NOV. 30, 202302:02
The underwater footage shows the “two points of contact the aircraft has with the coral and the remainder of the aircraft floating above,” the Navy said. The video shows tires on the coral as tiny fish swim through rock crevices.

A Navy team removed nearly all of the estimated 2,000 gallons of fuel on the plane, Rear Adm. Kevin Lenox said Monday.

Cmdr. Mark Anderson, who is leading the Navy’s mobile diving and salvage unit working at the site, said the plane was sitting on a mixture of coral and sand. The left engine is resting on coral. The plane rises a little with the tide, so the full weight of the plane is not on the coral, he said Monday.

Kaneohe Bay is home to coral reefs, an ancient Hawaiian fishpond and a breeding ground for hammerhead sharks.

Image taken from video provided by the U.S. Navy,
Tires on the coral. U.S. Navy via AP
image taken from video provided by the U.S. Navy
The plane was sitting on a mixture of coral and sand.U.S. Navy via AP
Sierra Club of Hawaii Executive Director Wayne Tanaka said the latest underwater footage underscores the concerns about potential damage to the reefs that residents previously expressed.

“It confirms what we’ve known: We have a jet plane sitting on coral reef,” he said. “We don’t know how much it moved, how much it could move.”

State environmental officials expect to conduct a damage assessment once the plane is removed.

PP

[Ex-Ascot]

Tiz stuck.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Corp.html

[Boac]

I've got an idea for a film - we could call it 'The Poseidon Adventure' or something?

[Karearea]

P-8 Poseidon Extraction Time-lapse • Kaneohe Bay Hawaii [2:42]

[PHXPhlyer]

Tiz stuck.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Corp.html

From the article:
The salvage plan will prioritize 'safety of people, safety of the environment and restoring combat capability of the aircraft,' the Navy said Wednesday.

After sitting in seawater for almost a month I have doubts about the cost effectiveness of getting this plane airworthy much less mission capable.
Any guesses?

PP