Coronabollocks..

[4mastacker]

TGG, both my daughter's went to uni (one at UEA the t'other at Lincoln) so I know full well the parental cost of supporting them. One of things that wasn't provided free of charge at either place, despite the exorbitant fees, was food - they had to buy in their own.

I suspect a jam sandwich and an apple is more than what a lot students usually eat for breakfast.

[Pontius Navigator]

The fees only cover tuition such as it is, beer and skittles, accommodation etc is all extra. Despite provision of laundry facilities in halls much laundry was done at home by the memsahib.

[TheGreenGoblin]

TGG, both my daughter's went to uni (one at UEA the t'other at Lincoln) so I know full well the parental cost of supporting them. One of things that wasn't provided free of charge at either place, despite the exorbitant fees, was food - they had to buy in their own.

I suspect a jam sandwich and an apple is more than what a lot students usually eat for breakfast.

I trust you didn't have two at university at the same time... aagh! The cost, the pain...

Food was part of the residence deal for me. I must admit I have never eaten better, if I had been forcibly been restricted to quarters and fed sandwiches and apples there would have been a riot.

[Pontius Navigator]

Depends on the halls. Roehampton had a traditional refractory. I think Reading and Medway did too. Others like Salford and Queen Mary's had flats with communal facilities.

[barkingmad]

P N sez: “Roehampton had a traditional refractory.”

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... ory-period

Probably an accurate description of many students after a hard weekend’s “studying”?!

Presume you meant this;

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... /refectory

Though the modus operandi of modern students is a long way off being monastic?!

[TheGreenGoblin]

P N sez: “Roehampton had a traditional refractory.”

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... ory-period

Probably an accurate description of many students after a hard weekend’s “studying”?!

Presume you meant this;

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... /refectory

Though the modus operandi of modern students is a long way off being monastic?!

Modern! I suspect students have been much the same since time immemorial!

I have seen The Student Prince...

[4mastacker]

I trust you didn't have two at university at the same time... aagh! The cost, the pain...

Food was part of the residence deal for me. I must admit I have never eaten better, if I had been forcibly been restricted to quarters and fed sandwiches and apples there would have been a riot.

Yes!! Feck!!

It was self-catering at both unis with a communal kitchen in the accommodation - the girls got fed-up with the frequent fire alarms in the middle of the night cos some pissed-up student burnt the toast/fell asleep cooking baked beans after a night on the pop.

[Woody]

It was self-catering at both unis with a communal kitchen in the accommodation - the girls got fed-up with the frequent fire alarms in the middle of the night cos some pissed-up student burnt the toast/fell asleep cooking baked beans after a night on the pop.

We had one famous phone call on a Sunday afternoon which was “ Mum how do you cook a Roast Dinner “

[Woody]

I still don't understand the point of the 10pm curfew.

It’s to provide some socialising opportunities.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-54497602

[Ibbie]

So Boris and his mad medical adviser blunder onwards, despite the WHO saying blanket lockdowns don't work for a variety of reasons. They are simply are not listening.

It is already ending in tears for some and should do hopefully for Bojo and his smug pals.

[OFSO]

Several universities in Barcelona are in lockdown, students shut in, waving from windows.

[Pinky the pilot]

WHO saying blanket lockdowns don't work for a variety of reasons. They are simply are not listening.

Sounds like an apt description of Chairman Dan of the Peoples Republic of Victoria.
ie not listening.

It is already ending in tears for some

Starting to do so there also, with the recent resignation from not only the Health Minister's Portfolio but also from Parliament, of Jenny Mikakos. And today the Department of Premier and Cabinet Secretart Chris Eccles also pulled the pin.

Who's next??

I have a BiL living in Melbourne and has so for the last 40 years. To say he is furious at the Governments actions over the last 6 or so months is quite understating it!

[Woody]

[TheGreenGoblin]

John Crace has this hopeless "Prime Minister" bang to rights, and he doesn't even have to write satire.... the government does it for him...

History repeats itself. Sort of. There are now more people in hospital with coronavirus than there were in March when the prime minister imposed a lockdown on the entire country. The difference back then is those restrictions came with the promise of some kind of strategy. Measures to reduce the pressures on the NHS while an effective local track-and-trace system could be introduced that would allow targeted lockdowns where necessary.

Six months on with countless broken promises on testing targets, including the deranged Operation Moonshot, and a track-and-trace system clearly unfit for purpose, Boris Johnson was back in the Commons to announce a new plan for the country. Only this one came with no end in sight. There was no glimmer of hope. Just an exhortation to keep aimlessly buggering on. The only upside was that if you did get Covid-19 then you were less likely to die of it than before as hospitals had become better at treating it. Unless the hospitals got completely overloaded. Then it was back to as you were.

Johnson looked knackered before he even started. His complexion even more pallid than usual and his eyes mere pinpricks. For a moment it looked as if the narcissist had been confronted with his own sense of futility. A situation that he couldn’t bend to his will, no matter how delusional the thought process. He is cornered by hubris: a man hating every second of his life but condemned to experience its unforgiving horror. Not even the health secretary could be bothered to attend to watch this latest meltdown.

“We have taken a balanced approach,” Johnson began. As in he was too slow to react back in March with the result that the government has one of the world’s highest death tolls. As in he did next to nothing during the summer when we had a chance to prepare for autumn. As in he actively encouraged people to go back to work for weeks before switching to advise them against it. As in unlocking the north at the same time as the south, even though infection rates in the north remained higher. That kind of balanced.

What Boris had to offer now was a new three-tier approach. Bad, very bad and very, very bad. Bad would apply to most of the country and would involve people doing pretty much what they had been doing for the last couple of months. Rule of six and all that.

Very bad would mean that those areas that had already been under the more stringent lockdown restrictions would remain so, though if you wanted to meet a few friends outdoors in the garden for a beer to let each other know how depressed you were feeling you now could. And very, very bad meant that you could only see your mates if you happened to be in the pub at the same time and order five Cornish pasties to go with your bottle of scotch.

It was all verifiably a bit nuts. Because as of yet the government has no scientific evidence that the hospitality industry is the prime source of infection, so it could all have been a waste of time. Because the government was in a fight with local leaders from around the country as to which tier they should be in: so far only Merseyside is classified as very, very bad and London’s mayor, Sadiq Khan, was pushing for London to be upgraded within days. Because local areas were economically better off to be classified as very bad, mostly because the R rate was between 1.2 and 1.5 nationally, so the virus was going to continue to spread whatever happened.

Often in the past, Keir Starmer has been unequivocal in his support for the government’s coronavirus measures. This time he was rather more circumspect. Mostly because it was hard to see how much difference the new measures were going to make other than to relabel every area of the country, but partly because there are a lot of Labour MPs who fear for the economies of their constituencies and are keen to be downgraded as far as possible. Not to mention those MPs who didn’t trust the government to know where their constituencies actually were and to wrongly allocate them. For Boris, anything further north than Islington is the wilderness.

It was no surprise that most other opposition MPs were sceptical, wondering whether stopping community transmission and an effective test-and-trace system would have been of more value, but what was most striking was how few Tory MPs were wholehearted in their enthusiasm. Some because they believe that any restriction on an Englishman’s liberty should be resisted – if you die, you die: get over it – but most because they too have no faith in Boris. The loss of trust in the prime minister is more contagious than the pandemic. It’s slowly dawned on them that he really is just fumbling around in the dark.

Boris still had to endure a Downing Street press conference where he was called on to repeat much of what he had said in the Commons. Though this time he had Rishi Sunak and Chris Whitty to offer a limited helping hand; the chief medical officer’s most uplifting message was that things could easily have been a great deal worse and that the restrictions in all tiers would have to become more severe to be effective. Which rather undermined most of what the prime minister had been saying.

Johnson did his best to retrieve the situation with the vague hope that things might be a bit better by Christmas. But even the eternal optimist didn’t sound confident. Boris had intended his new simplified guidelines to be reassuring. To let the country feel he had the situation in hand. Yet all he had really achieved was to remind everyone that he was out of his depth and had no real answers to anything. Like all of us, he was just dancing in the dark. Beam me up, Whitty.

[Bob]

We edge ever closer to the time when even the idiots (some of whom reside in this very domain) realise the economy means **** all when your left dying in your own home whilst the rich get in their PC12s and Gulfstreams and **** off to some secure island, Doctors and drugs in tow

[ribrash]

Okay, let's ignore the propaganda emerging from Chicken-Licken HQ in Downing Street, and get the FACTS from a registered nurse with over 20 years experience, who worked right through the Covid-19 scare in a large NHS hospital. Please note; the publishers of this interview had checked the relevant documentation to assure themselves that the nurse is a registered nurse, and has the experience she claims - but (surprise!) she had to remain anonymous or risk being sacked.

Nurse X was asked the following questions:
Q. "Did you see any Covid patients under 20 years old?"
Answer: "No."

Q. Did you see any Covid patients under 50 years old?
Answer: "No."

Q. What was the general age range of the Covid patients?
Answer: "Over 70."

Q. Approximately what percentage of the Covid patients had other serious pre-existing conditions?
Answer: "100%."

Q. Please give us some examples of those pre-existing conditions?
Answer: "Heart failure, Parkinson’s, strokes, leg cellulitis and leg ulcers, diabetes, kidney disease and general anopia are some examples."

Q. Is it true that other viruses like flu and pneumonia mostly kill the elderly who have at least one pre-existing condition?
Answer: "Yes."

Q. In your over 20 years of experience, did you see a specific difference between Covid patients and other patients you have treated that had a severe viral infection?
Answer: "No."

Read the full interview, and prepare to be utterly sickened by what you read about the National Harm Service, the blatant contempt with which patients have been treated, and the bare-faced lies being told:

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2020/10/10 ... exclusive/

[TheGreenGoblin]

Let's go fishing ribrash... **** the rest of the bollocks...

I will cast and my sea reel will tangle again...

[boing]

Yes, the rich are likely to act that way but it is difficult to see how their actions would cause problems for the people left behind, it may actually be a bonus. With the rich and their hangers-on gone more hospital space and more drugs are available for those left behind.

The biggest problem the departure of the rich could cause is a possible reduction in investment capital availability for an economic recovery but I suspect this would not be a significant problem. I am not in UK of course but I feel the same way about the US "rich", the mob of useless CEO's and whining "artists". Good riddance I say.

The fate of people left dying will more likely be caused by incompetent government than the departure of the rich.

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[TheGreenGoblin]

Yes, the rich are likely to act that way but it is difficult to see how their actions would cause problems for the people left behind, it may actually be a bonus. With the rich and their hangers-on gone more hospital space and more drugs are available for those left behind.

The biggest problem the departure of the rich could cause is a possible reduction in investment capital availability for an economic recovery but I suspect this would not be a significant problem. I am not in UK of course but I feel the same way about the US "rich", the mob of useless CEO's and whining "artists". Good riddance I say.

The fate of people left dying will more likely be caused by incompetent government than the departure of the rich.

.

Sigh...

Say nothing, look into the future, breathe, sigh and then let that arrow fly...

Best TGG

[AtomKraft]

Good post Ribrash.

Says it all.

We cannot abolish death, we don't control it.
We also cannot control the temp of the planet. It does that stuff on its own.

Time for a big slice of humble pie for mankind to eat.

Maybe there is a God.