Impact of coronavirus on aviation industry.

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#681 Post by ian16th » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:46 pm

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Well this is progress; https://www.businessinsider.co.za/trave ... ca-2021-10. :YMPARTY:
With the failure of SAA's attempted re-start, they probably hope to pick up some of the crumbs.
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#682 Post by Woody » Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:42 pm

ian16th wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:46 pm
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Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:54 am
Well this is progress; https://www.businessinsider.co.za/trave ... ca-2021-10. :YMPARTY:
With the failure of SAA's attempted re-start, they probably hope to pick up some of the crumbs.
Johannesburg (22 September 2021) – Following months of preparation after exiting business rescue, SAA resumes both domestic and continental service. The carrier’s first scheduled flight is an early morning take-off from OR Tambo International in Johannesburg to Cape Town International on Thursday the 23rd of September and is one of three return flights per day between the two cities. Flights are also set to start to five African capitals - Accra, Kinshasa, Harare, Lusaka, and Maputo.
Not completely failed as far as I know, but only 6 active aircraft :((
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#683 Post by ian16th » Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:54 pm

They have announced redutions to their announced shedules.
Plus the new outside cash is not yet committed!
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#684 Post by Woody » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:09 pm

ian16th wrote:
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They have announced redutions to their announced shedules.
Plus the new outside cash is not yet committed!
Knew that they were waiting for the cash, but hadn’t seen anything about reducing the schedule.
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#685 Post by ian16th » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:08 pm

Woody wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:09 pm
ian16th wrote:
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They have announced redutions to their announced shedules.
Plus the new outside cash is not yet committed!
Knew that they were waiting for the cash, but hadn’t seen anything about reducing the schedule.
To places such as Accra, 2 x week not 3 x week.
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#686 Post by Woody » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:19 pm

To places such as Accra,
The BA 81 one flight that I’ve not missed while being on furlough.
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#687 Post by ian16th » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:26 pm

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To places such as Accra,
The BA 81 one flight that I’ve not missed while being on furlough.
I'll make a guess, it is Accra to Heathrow?
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#688 Post by Woody » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:30 pm

I'll make a guess, it is Accra to Heathrow?
Other way round BA 81 LHR-ACC, BA78 ACC- LHR
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#689 Post by ian16th » Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:07 pm

Here is a quote from African Pilot:
Wings clipped already, SAA postpones flights, reduces frequencies

A week after taking to the skies, the relaunched national carrier, SAA has been forced to delay the restart of scheduled services to Maputo, as well as to reduce frequencies on other routes. South African Airways (SAA), took to the skies again on 23 September, resuming domestic flights between Johannesburg and Cape Town. The national carrier also started its return to several international destinations (regional routes) this past week.

SAA interim CEO Thomas Kgokolo was enthusiastic about the airline’s restart and previously stated that the airline noted a promising number of flight bookings ahead of its relaunch. Kgokolo said that early booking figures indicated that SAA’s flights may be as much as 75% full. It seems that the jubilation and excitement of the national carrier’s restart have been short-lived. The airline has already been forced to reduce frequencies on certain routes, as well as to postpone the restart of scheduled services on one of the routes it intends to operate.

The airline, which will apparently no longer be dependent on state bailouts, despite having restarted scheduled services without its private-sector partner Takatso Consortium being fully on board, advises that it has been forced to push back the restart of scheduled services to Maputo, as well as cutting frequencies to other African cities in its new route network. “Part of our promise to you is to act in a financially prudent manner, to offer transparency in our business decisions and give you advance notice of planned changes,” SAA commercial performance South Africa manager Shabnam Vadachia said.

Tourism update states that SAA has made several changes to its new international schedule. The changes include delaying the restart of one of its routes by two months and reducing frequencies on other routes. “Following nearly a month of sales, SAA is making some proactive schedule adjustments to better match capacity to emerging demand and ensure you have all the information you need to plan with certainty,” Vadachia said.

Scheduled flights to Maputo (Mozambique) should have been started on 27 September but that the restart of this route has been pushed back two months. Flights are expected to begin in December.

Flights to Kinshasa (DRC) have also been affected. The route was expected to be serviced three times a week from 27 September. However, the airline has reduced the frequency of operations on this route, stating that selected flights have been removed for September and October. Daily flights were intended between Johannesburg and Lusaka (Zambia) from 27 September. SAA has cut the frequency of services on this route. It will offer four flights per week during September and October. Daily flights will resume from November 2021.
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#690 Post by Woody » Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:46 pm

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#691 Post by Woody » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:34 am

Well that’s staff travel buggered then ~X(

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#692 Post by Woody » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:59 am

Just in passing, yesterday’s rumour was that Big Airways are going to be so short of staff in the next few months that they’ve been phoning people that took VR and asking them if they wanted to return to work :ymdevil:
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#693 Post by G-CPTN » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:09 am

Woody wrote:
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phoning people that took VR and asking them if they wanted to return to work
Depends on the terms I suppose.

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#694 Post by Woody » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:11 am

G-CPTN wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:09 am
Woody wrote:
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phoning people that took VR and asking them if they wanted to return to work
Depends on the terms I suppose.
Supposedly on new starter rates💩💩💩
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#695 Post by G-CPTN » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:19 am

Woody wrote:
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Supposedly on new starter rates💩💩💩
I suppose if it is in addition to other arrangements it might be attractive.

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#696 Post by Woody » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:28 am

I’ve heard of one Ex-CSD who told them to shove it where the sun don’t shine :ymdevil:
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#697 Post by Woody » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:50 am

Looks like some of you better start digging your licenses out :ymdevil:

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#698 Post by llondel » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:23 pm

Ryanair pissing off prospective customers again...
Ryanair has barred passengers who got Covid refunds for its flights until they pay back the money.

Close to a thousand Ryanair customers received money back through their credit card companies for trips they did not take during the pandemic. But Ryanair has disputed the payments and said customers must pay them back before they are allowed to fly again.

Holiday makers say their plans are now in tatters after being effectively blacklisted over disputed “chargebacks”.
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#699 Post by Woody » Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:37 am

Woody wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:59 am
Just in passing, yesterday’s rumour was that Big Airways are going to be so short of staff in the next few months that they’ve been phoning people that took VR and asking them if they wanted to return to work :ymdevil:
Email from the grownups saying that overtime is going to be available soon :-o
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#700 Post by Woody » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:41 pm

Wait until the DM gets hold of this :ymdevil:

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