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#1 Post by Boac » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:42 pm

Anyone fancy a bit of bird for lunch? https://www.airlive.net/alert-a-raf-a40 ... e-fuselage

I reckon it killed the bird.

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#2 Post by ian16th » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:58 pm

Rigger!
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#3 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:29 pm

Read the small print under the panel.

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#4 Post by Boac » Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:56 pm

It's very odd panel damage. I cannot see what caused the major disruption 'outwards' apart from a possible tiny ingress in front of it. Any engineers comment?

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#5 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:19 pm

I expanded the image. The front of the hole shows the panel punched in. The peel back shows blood smear top and bottom. I would conjecture that the bird hit the static cylinder, moved it out slightly and airflow did the rest.

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#6 Post by Wodrick » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:23 pm

That component is an ADM (Air Data Module) the back end of a pitot port, it looks to me like it has twatted the pitot head and torn it out of the structure.
Needs more than a hose down and HS Tape 😀
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#7 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:43 pm

Wodrick, that was my first thought except the panel appears to have three static vents. I think the pitot are further aft. There is a second static port panel hidden by the peel back. You can just make out the upper of the starboard pitot on the left. There is a good port side image of 412 on Google, the rest of the image is worth looking at too :)

Found a starboard side one here

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#8 Post by Boac » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:40 pm

I think, on reflection, we need to see the radome. I theorise. Large flock of large birds. Entry of one or more through radome and out as shown, others strike fuselage side?

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#9 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:45 pm

I feel a METAR is called for here. Another question surely must be whether or not the bird had been cleared by ATC into controlled airspace?

So many feathers, so few answers!

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#10 Post by Boac » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:51 pm

I do think the A400 might be a bit flimsy! Another 'plastic' Airbus?

TGG - I hear that ATC told the birds to turn left onto 180 but they said they were 'comfortable' and ignored that. The RAF is to hold a bird of enquiry.

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#11 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:21 pm

Boac wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:51 pm
I do think the A400 might be a bit flimsy! Another 'plastic' Airbus?

TGG - I hear that ATC told the birds to turn left onto 180 but they said they were 'comfortable' and ignored that. The RAF is to hold a bird of enquiry.
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#12 Post by Wodrick » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:20 pm

Boac wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:51 pm
I do think the A400 might be a bit flimsy!
I agree very light material.
OK I've looked at other pictures it is a static port, so it's flush, nothing to pick up on, and it does look inside to outside apart from the dents ahead.
I was going to say that it would never get through the pressure bulkhead but then watching TV blankly, I recalled that it had happened before to a different type, flight deck incursion, quite a mess and it was a brown flight deck so 75 or 76, think a 757.
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#13 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:13 am

If you look again you will see that the upper right hand corner of the Static panels has been pushed in and the left hand side pushed out.

It looks as if the penetration was just above the Static port box, slightly lower and i would have expected the box to have been pushed in. The heaviest blood smear appears to be on the aft side of the box and the smeared up and left along the outside. It looks like a single plug on the box had been ripped off.

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#14 Post by om15 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:58 am

Be interesting to know what altitude this occurred at and what the pressure differential was. Looks like impact puncture on the forward edge of the damaged area, skin blown out by differential and torn backwards by airflow.
Possibly.
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#15 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:15 am

" What happened to number 14? "

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