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VISA Problem

#1 Post by OFSO » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:27 pm

Hi y'all, an instant solution is required.

My oil driller friends are returning on 2.7.2020 on a hired bizjet from deepest Africa to Madrid.

All are EU citizens bar one, who is Russian. He has no visa for Spain.

Not having a visa he can't enter Spain, although all he wants to do is sleep at the airport and leave next day.

He has a ticket on 3.7.2020 from Madrid to Moscow.

Pearl VIP meet-and-greet at the airport are not answering their phone, so first idea is off.

Any ideas ?

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Re: VISA Problem

#2 Post by Undried Plum » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:36 pm

The worst he faces is being deported to Mockba. That's his intention anyway.

Relax.

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Re: VISA Problem

#3 Post by OFSO » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:49 pm

What I said......

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Re: VISA Problem

#4 Post by Boac » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:06 pm

Is there not a bigger risk he will be sent back to "deepest Africa"?

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#5 Post by OFSO » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:02 pm

Not once the plane has departed. Of course I am suggesting a modicum of common sense on the part of the Spanish immigration officials.

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#6 Post by Magnus » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:27 pm

Good luck with that, OFSO.

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Re: VISA Problem

#7 Post by OFSO » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:35 pm

He must be a very law-abiding Russian. He's phoning the Russian Embassy in Madrid tomorrow.

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#8 Post by fareastdriver » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 pm

If you are enroute from one country to another through a third country's airport then you do not need a visa for that country. You can stay airside until your connection is ready to board. Should it be a long time then you can normally be stamped through with a transit visa. A really miserable country will insist that you sleep on a bench until your boarding time.

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Re: VISA Problem

#9 Post by John Hill » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:36 am

fareastdriver wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 pm
If you are enroute from one country to another through a third country's airport then you do not need a visa for that country. You can stay airside until your connection is ready to board.

Do they know about this at LAX?
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Re: VISA Problem

#10 Post by ian16th » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:41 am

John Hill wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:36 am
fareastdriver wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 pm
If you are enroute from one country to another through a third country's airport then you do not need a visa for that country. You can stay airside until your connection is ready to board.

Do they know about this at LAX?
They do at BOS, but are not quick about it!

There was an Egyptian in front of me at Immigration with exactly this requirement, she was going to Canada, I seemed to be stood waiting for ages while she was processed.
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Re: VISA Problem

#11 Post by Capetonian » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:43 am

If see you are enroute from one country to another through a third country's airport then you do not need a visa for that country. You can stay airside until your connection is ready to board. Should it be a long time then you can normally be stamped through with a transit visa. A really miserable country will insist that you sleep on a bench until your boarding time.
Dangerous misinformation.
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Re: VISA Problem

#12 Post by OFSO » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:10 am

Transit visas available in Spain for passing from arrivals to departures in same airport. Compulsory also for some nationalities. But need applying for days in advance....

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#13 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:15 am

Capetonian wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:43 am
If see you are enroute from one country to another through a third country's airport then you do not need a visa for that country. You can stay airside until your connection is ready to board. Should it be a long time then you can normally be stamped through with a transit visa. A really miserable country will insist that you sleep on a bench until your boarding time.
Dangerous misinformation.
I have heard on occasion you need a Visa for US airspace with one aircrew being required to land and off load it's non visa pax - Someone with whom they wanted a chat.

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Re: VISA Problem

#14 Post by Capetonian » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:29 am

TIMATIC-3 / 03JUL20 / 1115 UTC
NATIONAL UNITED KINGDOM (GB)
EMBARKATION UNITED KINGDOM (GB)/TRANSIT USA (US)
DESTINATION AUSTRALIA (AU)


VISA TRANSIT USA (US)

...... NORMAL PASSPORTS ONLY ......
PASSPORT REQUIRED.
- BRITISH PASSPORTS WITH NATIONALITY "BRITISH CITIZEN" MUST BE
VALID FOR THE PERIOD OF INTENDED STAY.

VISA REQUIRED,
EXCEPT FOR PASSENGERS WITH A BRITISH PASSPORT
WITH NATIONALITY "BRITISH CITIZEN". THEY MUST HAVE AN
ELECTRONIC SYSTEM FOR TRAVEL AUTHORIZATION (ESTA) AND TRAVEL
IN TRANSIT. (SEE NOTE 60190)

TWOV (TRANSIT WITHOUT VISA):
- THERE ARE NO TRANSIT FACILITIES, PASSENGERS MUST COMPLY WITH
ALL ENTRY REGULATIONS FOR THE USA.
========================================== TIMATIC-3 / 03JUL20 / 1116 UTC
NATIONAL SOUTH AFRICA (ZA)
EMBARKATION UNITED KINGDOM (GB)/TRANSIT USA (US)
DESTINATION AUSTRALIA (AU)


VISA TRANSIT USA (US)

...... NORMAL PASSPORTS ONLY ......
PASSPORT REQUIRED.
- PASSPORTS ISSUED TO NATIONALS OF SOUTH AFRICA MUST BE VALID
FOR THE PERIOD OF INTENDED STAY.
-
VISA REQUIRED.
TWOV (TRANSIT WITHOUT VISA):
- THERE ARE NO TRANSIT FACILITIES, PASSENGERS MUST COMPLY WITH
ALL ENTRY REGULATIONS FOR THE USA.

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Re: VISA Problem

#15 Post by OFSO » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:39 pm

My friends are safely back in Lagos after nearby resup boat stormed by pirates and 14 (white) crew taken off for ransom. Poor sods. Friends haggling with company over return flight costs.

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#16 Post by tango15 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:59 pm

Capetonian wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:43 am
If see you are enroute from one country to another through a third country's airport then you do not need a visa for that country. You can stay airside until your connection is ready to board. Should it be a long time then you can normally be stamped through with a transit visa. A really miserable country will insist that you sleep on a bench until your boarding time.
Dangerous misinformation.
+1 Been caught out twice with that. Both times in the Caribbean, where they were fairly relaxed about the whole thing, but it taught me a lesson.

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